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http://www.petroleumnews.com/pnarch/010228-49.html
NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars Kristen Nelson PNA Editor-in-Chief If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water deep below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told “Meet Alaska” that NASA is looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water — and the life it might contain. Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes and the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that might work on Mars. The first goal, he said, would be “to drill a hole down into the permafrost, maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to several kilometers.” The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter at a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days. Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a 2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist. Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical geothermal drilling, he said, and that’s one of the things NASA is looking at. The melting tool would also “tend to sterilize the hole on the way down” which would help with the problem of contamination issues. Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems, Briggs said, some so advanced they aren’t willing to talk much about them. He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry who “really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities … “We do appreciate,” he said, “that this is a non-trivial activity.” And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet and animal life. NASA is lying to the public big time. |
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http://www.petroleumnews.com/pnarch/010228-49.html NASA Ames Center looks at problem of drilling on Mars Kristen Nelson PNA Editor-in-Chief If there is life on Mars, it would probably be microorganisms in water deep below the surface of the planet. Dr. Geoffrey Briggs, director, Center for Mars Exploration at the NASA Ames Center, told “Meet Alaska” that NASA is looking at ways to drill on Mars to look for water — and the life it might contain. Briggs said NASA has been working with Halliburton, Shell, Baker-Hughes and the Los Alamos National Laboratory to identify drilling technologies that might work on Mars. The first goal, he said, would be “to drill a hole down into the permafrost, maybe 100 meters as a trial of the technology; ultimately we want to go to several kilometers.” The earliest drilling opportunity would be 2007, and one of the problems will be power. A very power-efficient system might cut out cores a meter at a time, Briggs said, perhaps grinding away at material needed to get the core at a rate of one core a day for hundreds of days. Deeper drilling, into the multi-kilometer range, might occur as part of a 2014 Mars mission which would put astronauts on the planet to assist. Los Alamos developed a melting tool intended for use in high-technical geothermal drilling, he said, and that’s one of the things NASA is looking at. The melting tool would also “tend to sterilize the hole on the way down” which would help with the problem of contamination issues. Halliburton and Baker-Hughes are working on some very advanced systems, Briggs said, some so advanced they aren’t willing to talk much about them. He said the NASA Ames Center relies on working with people in the industry who “really understand the problems and make us face up to the realities … “We do appreciate,” he said, “that this is a non-trivial activity.” And as a side note: There's be no reason to expect oil on Mars if NASA didn't have prior undisclosed knowledge that Mars once had abundant planet and animal life. This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. NASA is lying to the public big time. No, you are just big-time paranoid. Seek help, kook. -- The Evil Michael Davis(tm) http://www.mdpub.com/scopeworks/ http://skepticult.org Member #264-70198-536 Member #33 1/3 of The "I Have Been Killfiled By Tommy" Club "There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum (often erroneously attributed to P. T. Barnum) |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:03:35 GMT, Michael Davis
wrote: {...] This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. No, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. And you can knock it off with the insincere name calling. HTH Also see NASA AMES Research Center scientist John McGowan's 2000 paper: "Oil and Gas On Mars" which was published in _Instruments, Methods, and Mission for Astrobiology III, Proceedings of the SPIE 4137, pp 63-74 http://www.lyon.edu/projects/marsbug...articles1.html http://www.spie.org/web/meetings/pro...onfs/4137.html NASA is lying to the public big time. No, you are just big-time paranoid. Seek help, kook. No NASA is lying to the public big time and Halliburton and Shell oil are getting the benefit. |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:03:35 GMT, Michael Davis
wrote: {...] This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. No, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. And you can knock it off with the insincere name calling. HTH Also see NASA AMES Research Center scientist John McGowan's 2000 paper: "Oil and Gas On Mars" which was published in _Instruments, Methods, and Mission for Astrobiology III, Proceedings of the SPIE 4137, pp 63-74 http://www.lyon.edu/projects/marsbug...articles1.html http://www.spie.org/web/meetings/pro...onfs/4137.html NASA is lying to the public big time. No, you are just big-time paranoid. Seek help, kook. No NASA is lying to the public big time and Halliburton and Shell oil are getting the benefit. |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:03:35 GMT, Michael Davis wrote: {...] This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. No, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. No, kook, it is clearly about drilling for water. And you can knock it off with the insincere name calling. HTH Request denied, kook. Also see NASA AMES Research Center scientist John McGowan's 2000 paper: "Oil and Gas On Mars" which was published in _Instruments, Methods, and Mission for Astrobiology III, Proceedings of the SPIE 4137, pp 63-74 http://www.lyon.edu/projects/marsbug...articles1.html http://www.spie.org/web/meetings/pro...onfs/4137.html None of this claims anyone is going to drill for oil on Mars, kook. Oil would be pretty useless on Mars since there is no Oxygen to burn it with. NASA is lying to the public big time. No, you are just big-time paranoid. Seek help, kook. No NASA is lying to the public big time and Halliburton and Shell oil are getting the benefit. How? Be specific. -- The Evil Michael Davis(tm) http://www.mdpub.com/scopeworks/ http://skepticult.org Member #264-70198-536 Member #33 1/3 of The "I Have Been Killfiled By Tommy" Club "There's a sucker born every minute" - David Hannum (often erroneously attributed to P. T. Barnum) |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:16:34 GMT, * wrote:
This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. No, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. And you can knock it off with the insincere name calling. HTH no, it's not. it's about water. what would humans do with oil on mars? they could not bring it back to earth. what would humans do with water? drink it, while they're exploring the planet. hello? are you getting all this? |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:16:34 GMT, * wrote:
No NASA is lying to the public big time and Halliburton and Shell oil are getting the benefit. how do they benefit? they cannot sell oil millions of miles away. |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 01:19:04 GMT, Michael Davis
wrote: * wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:03:35 GMT, Michael Davis wrote: {...] This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. No, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. No, kook, Projection noted. it is clearly about drilling for water. Nope, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. And you can knock it off with the insincere name calling. HTH Request denied, kook. Projection noted. Also see NASA AMES Research Center scientist John McGowan's 2000 paper: "Oil and Gas On Mars" which was published in _Instruments, Methods, and Mission for Astrobiology III, Proceedings of the SPIE 4137, pp 63-74 http://www.lyon.edu/projects/marsbug...articles1.html http://www.spie.org/web/meetings/pro...onfs/4137.html None of this claims anyone is going to drill for oil on Mars, kook. Oil would be pretty useless on Mars since there is no Oxygen to burn it with. Heh, there's O and plenty of it on Mars. NASA is lying to the public big time. No, you are just big-time paranoid. Seek help, kook. No NASA is lying to the public big time and Halliburton and Shell oil are getting the benefit. How? Be specific. Omission. And Bush omitted most of it. |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:52:40 -0500, ffarkas wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:16:34 GMT, * wrote: This story isn't about oil, you ****-stupid, kook. It's about drilling for water. HTH. No, it's about drilling for oil on Mars. And you can knock it off with the insincere name calling. HTH no, it's not. it's about water. what would humans do with oil on mars? they could not bring it back to earth. what would humans do with water? drink it, while they're exploring the planet. hello? are you getting all this? Can't read, eh? |
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:53:42 -0500, ffarkas wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:16:34 GMT, * wrote: No NASA is lying to the public big time and Halliburton and Shell oil are getting the benefit. how do they benefit? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ And lots of it. they cannot sell oil millions of miles away. But they can get the tax payers to pay for it. |
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