Hoot Gibson and STS-27

If you get a chance, take a look at this month's Air & Space magazine.
There's an article on Hoot Gibson.

What's very interesting is he reveals a detail of STS-27 I wasn't aware of.
85 seconds into the flight part of the nosecap from the right-hand SRB broke
off and smashed into the wing. There was a lot of damage to the tiles under
the wing and he feared the damage was far worse than what ground control was
telling him.

Upon landing he saw the damage and describes it as "massive". He apparently
believes that NASA should have started to develop an on-orbit patch kit
after STS-27.

Anyway, interesting article.


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Greg Moore
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On Mar 21, 12:31*am, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:
If you get a chance, take a look at this month's Air & Space magazine.
There's an article on Hoot Gibson.

What's very interesting is he reveals a detail of STS-27 I wasn't aware of.
85 seconds into the flight part of the nosecap from the right-hand SRB broke
off and smashed into the wing. *There was a lot of damage to the tiles under
the wing and he feared the damage was far worse than what ground control was
telling him.

Upon landing he saw the damage and describes it as "massive". *He apparently
believes that NASA should have started to develop an on-orbit patch kit
after STS-27.

Anyway, interesting article.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.


Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos and a thread on
this.

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:31:17 -0400, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:

If you get a chance, take a look at this month's Air & Space magazine.
There's an article on Hoot Gibson.

What's very interesting is he reveals a detail of STS-27 I wasn't aware of.
85 seconds into the flight part of the nosecap from the right-hand SRB broke
off and smashed into the wing. There was a lot of damage to the tiles under
the wing and he feared the damage was far worse than what ground control was
telling him.

Upon landing he saw the damage and describes it as "massive". He apparently
believes that NASA should have started to develop an on-orbit patch kit
after STS-27.

Anyway, interesting article.

That's what led to the U-2 overflights during launch.

Brian

I think the main problem with Nasas fault awareness was that as they had had
tile damage for a long time, they more or less knew that it could handle it.
The leading edge damage was never thought about as the material was
considered too robust.
As has been said many times by many people, 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful
thing.
Brian

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On Mar 21, 12:31 am, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:
If you get a chance, take a look at this month's Air & Space magazine.
There's an article on Hoot Gibson.

What's very interesting is he reveals a detail of STS-27 I wasn't aware
of.
85 seconds into the flight part of the nosecap from the right-hand SRB
broke
off and smashed into the wing. There was a lot of damage to the tiles
under
the wing and he feared the damage was far worse than what ground control
was
telling him.

Upon landing he saw the damage and describes it as "massive". He
apparently
believes that NASA should have started to develop an on-orbit patch kit
after STS-27.

Anyway, interesting article.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.


Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos and a thread on
this.

On Mar 21, 7:40*am, wrote:
On Mar 21, 12:31*am, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"





wrote:
If you get a chance, take a look at this month's Air & Space magazine.
There's an article on Hoot Gibson.

What's very interesting is he reveals a detail of STS-27 I wasn't aware of.
85 seconds into the flight part of the nosecap from the right-hand SRB broke
off and smashed into the wing. *There was a lot of damage to the tiles under
the wing and he feared the damage was far worse than what ground control was
telling him.

Upon landing he saw the damage and describes it as "massive". *He apparently
believes that NASA should have started to develop an on-orbit patch kit
after STS-27.

Anyway, interesting article.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.

Old news. *Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos *and a thread on
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not old news. it's in this month's magazine.

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On Mar 21, 7:40 am, wrote:

Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
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not old news. it's in this month's magazine.

Charlie was pointing out that this month's magazine is old news. The CAIB
came out a couple of years ago.


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Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.

Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
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On Mar 21, 7:40 am, wrote:

Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos and a thread on
this.- Hide quoted text -

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not old news. it's in this month's magazine.

Charlie was pointing out that this month's magazine is old news. The
CAIB came out a couple of years ago.

Where "a couple" means "five and a half"...

"Jorge R. Frank" wrote in message
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
"bighard9inch" wrote in message
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On Mar 21, 7:40 am, wrote:

Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos and a thread on
this.- Hide quoted text -

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not old news. it's in this month's magazine.

Charlie was pointing out that this month's magazine is old news. The
CAIB came out a couple of years ago.

Where "a couple" means "five and a half"...

Hmm, has it been that long. They say when you get old the memory is the 2nd
thing to go.

I can't remember what the first thing is.




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Greg Moore
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I don't see this as old news at all. Gehman may have provided a
factual report on STS-27, but they fell way short in communicating the
severe emotion that was coupled with the damage. I'd say the obvious
conclusion is that NASA had no excuse for not having a rescue or
repair plan for STS-107. And all flights between 1988-2003.

Here's an online version for anyone who hasn't seen it:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttl...9/090327sts27/


~ CT


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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
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On Mar 21, 7:40 am, wrote:

Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos and a thread on
this.- Hide quoted text -

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not old news. it's in this month's magazine.

Charlie was pointing out that this month's magazine is old news. The
CAIB came out a couple of years ago.

Where "a couple" means "five and a half"...

Hmm, has it been that long. They say when you get old the memory is the 2nd
thing to go.

I can't remember what the first thing is.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.

On Mar 31, 2:31�am, wrote:
I don't see this as old news at all. �Gehman may have provided a
factual report on STS-27, but they fell way short in communicating the
severe emotion that was coupled with the damage. �I'd say the obvious
conclusion is that NASA had no excuse for not having a rescue or
repair plan for STS-107. �And all flights between 1988-2003.

Here's an online version for anyone who hasn't seen it:http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttl...9/090327sts27/

~ CT

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"Jorge R. Frank" wrote in messagenewsdOdnfK38eLK8lDUnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@gigan ews.com...
Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
"bighard9inch" wrote in message
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On Mar 21, 7:40 am, wrote:

Old news. Was brought up during CAIB
Go to NASASpaceflight.com, there are detailed photos and a thread on
this.- Hide quoted text -

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not old news. it's in this month's magazine.

Charlie was pointing out that this month's magazine is old news. �The
CAIB came out a couple of years ago.

Where "a couple" means "five and a half"...

Hmm, has it been that long. �They say when you get old the memory is the 2nd
thing to go.

I can't remember what the first thing is.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.- Hide quoted text -

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yeah my shuttle stuck at station was clearly possible since this
flight.

why did nasa basically ignore it?

fear it wasnt fixable and would end the shuttle program permanetely?
clearly so soon after challenger shuttle would of been grounded
permanetely......