The speed of gravity revisited

On Sep 22, 8:21*am, Tom Roberts wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
Tom Van Flandern wrote:
Tom Roberts wrote:
[Roberts]: in the domain where NG is valid (e.g. here on earth,
most of the solar system), the predictions of GR and NG are
experimentally indistinguishable.

So you agree that in most of the solar system, GR is experimentally
indistinguishable from NG, a theory with infinite force propagation
speeds that gives strongly spiral orbits if the force propagation
speed is reduced as low as c?

Why do you keep bringing up a FANTASY theory? There _IS_ no such theory
as "NG with force propagation speed reduced as low as c".

Yes, in this domain the predictions of GR are indistinguishable
from the predictions of NG. But one must use each ACTUAL THEORY, not
your fantasy.

In GR, nothing that carries energy, momentum, or information can travel
faster than c.

Honest Roberts you are desperately lying again. See a previous
statement of yours made when Einstein criminal cult was still in no
danger and jugglers like you could safely refer even to the truth:

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...2a006c7d508022
Pentcho Valev: "CAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT EXCEED 300000 km/s IN A
GRAVITATIONAL FIELD?" Tom Roberts: "Sure, depending on the physical
conditions of the measurement. It can also be less than "300000 km/
s" (by which I assume you really mean the standard value for c). And
this can happen even for an accelerated observer in a region without
any significant gravitation (e.g. in Minkowski spacetime)."

Pentcho Valev