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Old November 11th 03, 04:55 AM
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This is lovely, but it is no where near reality.

Reality, is such that in order for an individual thinking
person, to be an indiviudal, in a universe that all connected,
it is necessary for indiviudals to be deprived of some
information. That is to say, that unless a person is isolated,
and his consciousness isolated into an individual, he or she
cannot be separate from lets say, Gaia. The planet itself.

As the earth from a distance, would look like a funny looking
creature with skin, and we are part of that skin.

We assume the planet itself, has no collective consciousness.

Why is that? We have never met her.

Yet some of us actually have.

Further as well, the universe as a whole, is nothing more than
a series of laws. Look at the machinery itself. Waves in some
substance we cannot detect.
People are programmed to believe in particles.

here is a partcle according to the definition of physics.

xyzt (I am not making this up)

A point particle, is a mathmatical construct. Never has
any solid amterial ever been found. Material we like to believe
is solid, because it can deflect other waves shot at it
at very high energies, but not solid as in little pieces
of rock.

Sure we posit that at the center of black holes there may be a
singulariy. An acyual solid something. But we do not know
it is only a theory, and it may just a well not be solid
either.
So what we have, are waves. Not slow rollers on the ocean.
High speed high energy waves. We can call them particles,
if we freeze the frame of reference.

That is to say, that xyzt is not moving. It is a particle.

In reality, nothing ever stops moving and the waves keep
rolling along.

Current theory dictates that the universe began with the big bang.

That is what cause the waves and these tiny eddies we call atoms
are a product from the original explosion, or also from
other subsequent explosions such as super novae.

A tiny little contained eddy. That is an atom. With the
force of the big bang or other gigantic explosion
still feeding it. The element itself, locked into a frequency.

Each element, locked into a SPECIFIC frequency.

Each element being divisible, by the frequency of Hydrogen.

There are no elements that are not in this scale, in our
known universe.

What makes things individual such as why copper is not
a copper/brass/cheese/half-hydrogen blend is because copper
atoms have a distinct frequency.

There are no half atoms.

It is as if, the entire universe is like a TV. A three dimensional
TV. A holodeck. We believe that the universe began with the big
bang because of the red shift of galaxies. Hubble et al.

That is the sole basis for this belief.

The red shift may be caused by something else entirely,
in which case the big bang theory would be false.

But just as people like to imagine that God with his sense
of humour blinks dinosaur bones into the earth for fun,
we have no way of proving he does not.

In fact, the universe itself, in many doctrines, is a conscious
universe.

Reality, is his doing. We exist in the consciousness of God.

We are a smaller consciousness, which has senses to give us
the feeling of reality. Hardness softness wetness etc,
following the laws of physics, and subject not only to
those physical laws, but also subject to other rules
and laws and themes and paths, and time lines, which
together make up a life as we know it.

When we sleep, and when we are not aware, not consciously
aware, for all intents and purposes, we do not exist.

Yet, we believe that when we wake, life will be as it
was when we fell asleep. That the universe will continue
to act predictably, according to laws.

Look at DNA. It is programming.

Look at plant growth. Fractal algorythms.
Clouds - same. As seen by anyone who has used or seen a high
quality flight simulator.

Here is an example if you haven't...

http://www3.telus.net/webshrinker/wo...eanIsland.html

This is in two dimensions.

In three dimensions, immersed into the waves themselves,
and as part of the very substance of that projection,
you would have reality as we know it.

Does that make it any less real or any less painful
or any less pleasurable? No, not at all. That is just
what life is.

But when we dream, we are free.

Below you are quoting Mark. Brother (I am assuming you
are a brother not a sista please try to keep up
so that we are all on the same page. We are at
Revelations 21:21

where 21 and 21 = 42

Where there are 12 gates, and each gate as one pearl, and each
time they go through one on Stargate SG1 it makes me wonder
why they don't just come out and tell us what they know,
instead of speaking in rhymes and riddles and making
us watch all those commercials.

The pearly gates.

As someone said recently, there is light at the end of the
tunnel, and a gate to a place, that may just be the heaven
we have always searched for.

Wouldn't it be nice, to go home now.

But as far as the theory below, It is common for people to
look at the work of others in their time. Like Einstein
looked at Maxwell, and etc back to a botanist named
Browning who observed in a microscope, (a rather new invention
at the time), little things seemed to be shooting little things
at each other, causing the little things to move about.

From there, n-dimensional space was realized. Although it
took a further 50 or so years to get into theory as
SR and GR.

As far as your comment below about hippies and godliness, the
universe we live in, is a person. And he has a name.

It is not Zeus, the King of Gods. It is the Lord King High God
of the Universe. He is and does everything.

He said so himself. And after he spun the moon for me,
I believed him.

We have a saying. We the people of *is*

And that is, "Don't be surprised, if one day, your thing
doesn't work, and it was him, doing it all along."

:-)



Thesis on MacDougall Space and the Astral Form.

Part 2

The Good News According to Mark 13,10

The Good News must first be preached to all the nations. When they
lead you away and deliver you up, don't be anxious beforehand, or
premeditate what you will say, but say whatever will be given you
in that hour. For it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

MacDougall writes;
"The essential thing is that there must be a substance as the
basis of continuing personal identity and consciousness, for
without space-occupying substance, personality or a continuing
conscious ego after bodily death is unthinkable."
In MacDougall Space, itself a form or hyper-form if you like no
thing ever comes from nothing but all things are built from forms.
In MacDougalls original 1907 thesis form from nothing as per QM
is precluded by supposition [2]. That is not to say that all of
QM is erroneous but just that MacDougall Space is totally embracing,
it is the super-space-form of all space-form, a hyper form.
So-called space-time (a super-form) and false vacuum yet another
example of a super-form are "inferior" to the hyper-form. In this
rationale it is clear that the MacDougal Space form must have
pre-existed in order for any BB to manifest. Incidently space-time
is not actually a single super-form per se. It is a result of two
super-forms, space and time. The time super-form unlike any other
form is "constructed" entirely of specialized time-form linking hooks
only. Space-forms and matter-forms may have time-form linking hooks
in addition to whatever other hooks they have.
Consider if the time-form was exclusively a part of the space-form as
in the erroneously hypothesised "space-time" then how could other
forms exclusively lock with the time super-form? Quantum entanglement
could not happen without an independant time super-form. The
Copenhagen interpretation could not be possible without an
independant time super-form. You get the picture.

"According to the latest conception of science, substance, or
space-occupying material, is divisible into that which is
gravitative, solids, liquids, gases, all having weight, and the
ether which is nongravitative. It seemed impossible to me that
the soul substance could consist of the ether. If the conception
is true that ether is continuous and not to be conceived of as
existing or capable of existing in separate masses, we have here
the most solid ground for believing that the soul substance we
are seeking is not ether, because one of the very first
attributes of personal identity is the quality of separateness."
So, MacDougall stuck inside 19th Century physics considers the
aether (a super-form) and concludes that the soul or Astral form
being discrete cannot be of the all pervading superform aether
variety. Very astute of him. So much for the "super-conscious"
or communal all pervading variety of "godliness" favoured by
hippies and some eastern dogmas.

"Nothing is more borne in upon consciousness, than that the ego is
detached and separate from all things else - the nonego.
We are therefore driven back upon the assumption that the soul
substance so necessary to the conception of continuing personal
identity, after the death of this material body, must still be a
form of gravitative matter, or perhaps a middle form of substance
neither gravitative matter or ether, not capable of being
weighed, and yet not identical with ether."
Ok so MacDougall admits he doesn't know exactly what type of
"matter" his "continuing personal identity" the Astral Form takes.
As previously described in part 1 this is purely a function of
hooks that a form presents to other forms. Consider three different
forms A,B and C. Forms A and B may interelate with each other in
a way that is different to that which A and C may relate.
Take magnetic and non-magnetic materials as a simple illustration
of how forms may provide different hooks. Whether one form detects
another form is entirely a function of what hooks they have or
"share" between them.

"Since however the substance considered in our hypothesis is linked
organically with the body until death takes place, it appears to me
more reasonable to think that it must be some form of gravitative
matter, and therefore capable of being detected at death by weighing
a human being in the act of death."
Organic human forms are well endowed with "mass" hooks and it is
no surprise that MacDougall should have looked there first in his
attempts to locate the human soul, the Astral Form.
In the next part I shall describe MacDougalls experiments where he
determines the weight (in Earths gravity) of the Astral Form.

End of part 2

Majestik

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