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On Mon 28 Jan 2008 lwk2431 wrote:
Please check out my blog for details. In particular I think that Hebrews 9:27, contrary to popular opinion, actually supports a belief in reincarnation. Is Reincarnation Biblical? http://... snips for clarity -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- While I have no doubt that karma and (re)incarnation are facts of life, the verse in question reads unambiguously "once" to die. Read Hebrews 9:27 from the Latin Vulgate: "et quemadmodum statutum est hominibus and to the extent that it is established to be men semel mori post hoc autem iudicium" once to die, after this but the judgment And here's the same verse from the original Greek: "kai kay oson apokeitai toiv anyrwpoiv and according to how much it is lying off to the men apax apoyanein meta de touto krisiv" once to die, after but this the judgment Once to die is correct. The mortal physical human bodies of sinners are born to die, from cradle to grave. Although I'm certain of it, I'll simply say that I devoutly believe that the Immortal spirit persons (souls, psychii) of dead humans eventually, inexorably, get kicked out of heaven, cast down from Purgatory, to incarnate into the newborn mortal infant body on the day when that baby is born. I know it. But it's hard to tell people what you know if they don't know it too, as it takes one to know one. So I'll express it as a belief. I believe this has happened to all of us, on average, about two thousand times over the last two hundred thousand years, more or less, 2000 times we've each lived as mortals, died, sojourned in the heavens, got kicked out and born into yet another new, mortal, human incarnation. Two thousand times. I also believe when sinners die, their souls don't always immediately enter the Light, but occasionally get trapped in near-earth Limbo, what the bible calls "outer darkness". Psychic mediums commonly refer to these troubled discarnate souls as "grounded" spirits (entities, beings, souls, etc.) This is why psychics and experienced ghost hunters, shamans, priests, etc., try to persuade souls who are still trapped in Limbo to cross the abyss into the Light, to join their loved ones, and prepare to incarnate into a newborn human body when God "punches their karmic ticket", so to speak. I believe that souls trapped in Limbo can stay imprisoned there for up to a thousand years, but no longer than that (the book of Revelation really describes this in detail). I remember the last time I was kicked out of heaven, because I didn't understand what I'd done wrong, or why I got kicked out (again), and with so little prior notice--only just long enough to argue in vain with the powers that be. It was very traumatic, because over there you have a much clearer vision of the hardships awaiting in time (Judgment, Saturn, Kronos, Father Time), the karmic tribulation that awaits souls once they incarnate into a new mortal body, in its appointed new time and place, in this fallen state of this physical world. And I remember bits and pieces of past lives, i.e. lives of ancestors, clear enough to know that (re)incarnation is an incontrovertible fact, mortality, hardship, vulnerability, and eventually death, being the inconvenient wages of sin. It's hardly convenient being Judged precisely according to your works of good and works of evil, but that's the stark reality of what happens each time you die. Not only is this mandatory, but is participatory, and is all for our own good, knowing that freedom and responsibility do walk hand-in-hand. That said, the term "re"-incarnation is inaccurate, misnomer, because every time a mortal man dies (thus all mortal life on planet Earth, all owing to the Adamic Fall circa ~200,000 BC), that dead mortal body is extinct, the memory of it bequeathed to oblivion. The heavenly memory of that mortal human life is still there in crystal clarity, from cradle to grave, but the mortal human ego is of the mortal human flesh, of the mortal human brain, and so it dies with the mortal human body. See? The spirit-person retains all the development from that life, and in effect, karmically-speaking, picks up where he or she left off last time they died, their previous lives karmically echoing into their future, to the third and fourth generation individually, and collectively up to many thousands of years. So every time we're born, we pick up where we left off in the profound sense of the word. Familial relations tend to flock together, old friends, old enemies, synchronicities, or what some call "karmogenetic" memory. It's like when some people are born with a birthmark in the same place that the person they were in a recent lifetime received a fatal injury, etc. I believe that the reason most "westernized" Christians don't believe in karma and reincarnation, is unconsciously motivated, because dealing with death and dying is seldom an easy thing, and getting kicked out of heaven (the second death) is seldom much easier. In some ways it's actually harder, because while the souls of sinners feel superconscious shame for some time after death, the same souls feel contempt for some time just before the second death, contempt like "what did I do wrong?" "I was doing so good here in Purgatory. Why kick me out now?" I believe the reason for this is because our past lives were not the same people we are today. When you begin to remember a past life, the first thing you notice is that it's not you in the ego sense (in the physical sense) of the word. It was your spirit-person at that stage of development in that time and place of that past life. But your soul has subsequently developed beyond that personality, into the ever-developing person you are today. The soul is eternally in development, so it's often surprising to see who you were in past lives. It's a weird feeling, because when you clearly remember a particular past life, you psychically-resurrect that dead personality, which psychic mediums commonly refer to as a ghost in "visitation". This is most easily done in dreams while sleeping, or by day-dreaming while awake, in trance. It is said that when living people become gravely worried about someone or something, while they're sleeping, or in trance, they can appear as a full body apparition hundreds or even thousands of miles away, sometimes so real-looking, so solid-looking, that they don't even look like a ghost--to the people who've reported seeing them. These very energetic apparitions in visitation are commonly called a doppelganger. So, when you consider the profoundly traumatic memories of past deaths and past second deaths, it's no wonder that so many unbelievers/fundamentalist-types block their psychic vision (clairvoyance) into the circles of heaven and hell. Heaven is ecstatic beyond words, but hell is excruciating beyond words. So it's no wonder the "fundie"-types prefer to forget all about it, and remain comfortably oblivious to both heaven and hell. It's the comfort-zone mentality that blocks their psychic vision, occulting both heaven and hell from their view. Thus the fundamentalist-types tend to become entangled in this mundane world. I think this is why the fundies either mock or shun all higher learning, or what is commonly referred to as the Occult. They want nothing to do with it, but when death finally comes they have no choice but to the face the Light, in which they see the future Judgment which uniquely awaits them once they've crossed over, each according to their works, all just like the bible says, all inconveniently to those who don't wish to be so rudely inconvenienced. But that's just my opinion, "I could be wrong now, but I don't think so, 'cause it's a jungle out there, it's a jungle out there" [theme from 'Monk' by Randy Newman]. Armageddon Cometh, Daniel Joseph Min http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQA/AwUBR59dEpljD7YrHM/nEQINsACg/Ag8g1hQeS3km32abDiveL2Oy/AAoLRE 7XqJgqDjgjracJYkV3bBfv0P =VKmY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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