Apollo 13 / 14

When they did Apollo 14, why couldn't they use some of the astronauts
who had been on Apollo 13?

Richard Fangnail wrote:

When they did Apollo 14, why couldn't they use some of the astronauts
who had been on Apollo 13?

Because the 14 crew was already well along in their training pipeline
by the time 13 flew.

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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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Richard Fangnail wrote:

When they did Apollo 14, why couldn't they use some of the astronauts
who had been on Apollo 13?

Because the 14 crew was already well along in their training pipeline
by the time 13 flew.

Which ironically had been bumped UP to give the 14 crew more time to train
once Shepard had been assigned to the crew.

Besides, it's not like you get a consolation prize.



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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:45:01 GMT, (Derek Lyons)
wrote:

Richard Fangnail wrote:

When they did Apollo 14, why couldn't they use some of the astronauts
who had been on Apollo 13?

Because the 14 crew was already well along in their training pipeline
by the time 13 flew.

D.

I was thinking that, too, but...

wasn't 14 originally going somewhere else? When they decided that 14
would go where 13 was supposed to go, did they need new training for
their new mission, or wasn't it that specialized?

Besides, it's not like you get a consolation prize.

Right. The question assumes that there is some reason to give priority to
individuals, while in fact the level of that priority was zero.



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"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" writes:

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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Because the 14 crew was already well along in their training pipeline
by the time 13 flew.

Which ironically had been bumped UP to give the 14 crew more time to train
once Shepard had been assigned to the crew.

Besides, it's not like you get a consolation prize.

Although as I recall, hadn't administrator Tom Paine promised
Neil Armstrong and then Pete Conrad that if Apollo 11 or 12 failed to
land on the moon they'd get the next flight? (Possibly this was meant
merely to lessen the onus of having to decide in a marginal situation
whether to continue or abort, although it could have been stirring
publicity to re-fly a crew if there was a sense they were gypped. I
could see having to make good on such an offer having two strongly
divergent effects on astronaut morale, simultaneously.)

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"Joseph Nebus" wrote in message
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"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" writes:

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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Because the 14 crew was already well along in their training pipeline
by the time 13 flew.

Which ironically had been bumped UP to give the 14 crew more time to train
once Shepard had been assigned to the crew.

Besides, it's not like you get a consolation prize.

Although as I recall, hadn't administrator Tom Paine promised
Neil Armstrong and then Pete Conrad that if Apollo 11 or 12 failed to
land on the moon they'd get the next flight? (Possibly this was meant
merely to lessen the onus of having to decide in a marginal situation
whether to continue or abort, although it could have been stirring
publicity to re-fly a crew if there was a sense they were gypped. I
could see having to make good on such an offer having two strongly
divergent effects on astronaut morale, simultaneously.)

I'll have to find the quote in First Man that discusses that, but one rumor
has him telling ALL crews (except 17 obviously) this.

It's doubtful it would have happened on any flight other than possibly
Apollo 11 if only because the publicity surrounding that crew at that point.



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On Nov 29, 6:18�pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
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"Joseph Nebus" wrote in message

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"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" writes:

"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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Because the 14 crew was already well along in their training pipeline
by the time 13 flew.

Which ironically had been bumped UP to give the 14 crew more time to train
once Shepard had been assigned to the crew.

Besides, it's not like you get a consolation prize.

Although as I recall, hadn't administrator Tom Paine promised
Neil Armstrong and then Pete Conrad that if Apollo 11 or 12 failed to
land on the moon they'd get the next flight? �(Possibly this was meant
merely to lessen the onus of having to decide in a marginal situation
whether to continue or abort, although it could have been stirring
publicity to re-fly a crew if there was a sense they were gypped. �I
could see having to make good on such an offer having two strongly
divergent effects on astronaut morale, simultaneously.)

I'll have to find the quote in First Man that discusses that, but one rumor
has him telling ALL crews (except 17 obviously) this.

It's doubtful it would have happened on any flight other than possibly
Apollo 11 if only because the publicity surrounding that crew at that point.

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i wonder how the 13 crew looked at it? did they really want to try
again?


Well considering Lovell had already announced his retirement, I think it's
pretty clear he would not have taken the opportunity.




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On Nov 28, 10:11 am, Richard Fangnail
wrote:
When they did Apollo 14, why couldn't they use some of the astronauts
who had been on Apollo 13?

It has to do with career accumulated radiation dosage, and not exactly
of what we were otherwise being informed of.

Of extended ISS or even those shorter Hubble EVAs are also most often
a once in a lifetime kind of individual's one time exposure thing,
especially if accomplished on a somewhat bad solar day.

A-13 only had to survive one extremely brief and somewhat distant
orbit of that moon, whereas their lunar radiation exposure was not
hardly worth 0.1% of their actually doing the moon surface landing and
EVA thing, and yet their brief mission dosage had been reported as
having obtained some of the highest numbers in spite of their having
upon average greater surrounding spacecraft mass as their shield. Go
figure.
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