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Old September 29th 07, 10:04 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

"steve" wrote:
I reckon if the Chinese or Indians really want to go down in history,
they should organise a manned mission to Mars. I am not talking about
a high tech mission but a one way foot planting mission.
Find a few volunteers (married couple for instance). Send enough food
for a few years.
A spacecraft the size of Apollo is all that is needed. Prefably
scientists should be sent who stand a good chance of survival.

What do we reckon is the minimum size of a mission that could
potentailly survive indefinately without future support from Earth ?


Why do we want to go down in history? China has a great history
without anyone trying to do anything to achieve it. You should do all
yourself and go down in history.
China must concentrate on improving the standard of living and
education throughout the whole country.

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Old September 30th 07, 04:10 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

"JianZeMin is a Jap *******" wrote:
in message ...
this communists' dog is doing the cheating job again.
improving the mainlanders' living is a damage to corrupt officials
wealthy source !!!!
this dog is too dare to say it 'MUST' !!!!



You are obviously a very bitter and frustrated person - so bitter and
frustrated that you would accuse and condemn anyone to be a Communist
Dog if he doesn't agree with your anti government slogans. Your
personal failure in life is entirely your own fault, no one else's.
Posting expletives on newsgroups do not make your sufferings any
lighter, in fact it will make it worse, because no one pays the
slightest attention to what you say, and everyone knows that you bark
at any authority so as to cover up your own failure. Your time will be
better spent in improving your English, which by the way is appalling.
No, I am not a Communist, so you can save your breath by not accusing
me to be one, but I am telling the truth about you though.



Sun Yat Sen wrote:

"steve" wrote:
China must concentrate on improving the standard of living and
education throughout the whole country.


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Old October 29th 07, 02:37 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

On Sep 29, 1:04 pm, Sun Yat Sen wrote:
"steve" wrote:
I reckon if the Chinese or Indians really want to go down in history,
they should organise a manned mission to Mars. I am not talking about
a high tech mission but a one way foot planting mission.
Find a few volunteers (married couple for instance). Send enough food
for a few years.
A spacecraft the size of Apollo is all that is needed. Prefably
scientists should be sent who stand a good chance of survival.


What do we reckon is the minimum size of a mission that could
potentailly survive indefinately without future support from Earth ?


Why do we want to go down in history? China has a great history
without anyone trying to do anything to achieve it. You should do all
yourself and go down in history.


That's true enough, as going down in history is what America has been
really good at doing, as we systematically lie our American butts off
at the same time. China does not want to follow suit unless they've
got a WWIII mindset.


China must concentrate on improving the standard of living and
education throughout the whole country.


That is also very true, as India has been accomplishing in the last
few decades is an impressive accomplishment that's paying off big-
time.
- Brad Guth -

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Old October 30th 07, 05:18 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
LKYs Mother
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

I think the chinese and indians should arrange a mission
to mass and select unmarried male and female crew
members and give them strict instructions that they
are not to have sex on board but are allowed to get
married and have sex after they have landed on mars.

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 1:04 pm, Sun Yat Sen wrote:
"steve" wrote:
I reckon if the Chinese or Indians really want to go down in history,
they should organise a manned mission to Mars. I am not talking about
a high tech mission but a one way foot planting mission.
Find a few volunteers (married couple for instance). Send enough food
for a few years.
A spacecraft the size of Apollo is all that is needed. Prefably
scientists should be sent who stand a good chance of survival.


What do we reckon is the minimum size of a mission that could
potentailly survive indefinately without future support from Earth ?


Why do we want to go down in history? China has a great history
without anyone trying to do anything to achieve it. You should do all
yourself and go down in history.


That's true enough, as going down in history is what America has been
really good at doing, as we systematically lie our American butts off
at the same time. China does not want to follow suit unless they've
got a WWIII mindset.


China must concentrate on improving the standard of living and
education throughout the whole country.


That is also very true, as India has been accomplishing in the last
few decades is an impressive accomplishment that's paying off big-
time.
- Brad Guth -



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Old October 30th 07, 01:16 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

On Oct 29, 9:18 pm, "LKYs Mother" wrote:
I think the chinese and indians should arrange a mission
to mass and select unmarried male and female crew
members and give them strict instructions that they
are not to have sex on board but are allowed to get
married and have sex after they have landed on mars.


Most will become dead or wishing they were before ever reaching Mars,
and none are ever returning to Earth as dead or alive. So, it's a one-
way ticket to ride that'll likely only end up costing us a cool
trillion of our hard earned loot per soul that's going to remain
forever on Mars. Remember to send salt along with those having such a
spendy death wish.
- Brad Guth -

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Old October 30th 07, 11:13 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
LKYs Mother
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

maybe then we need to invent luminal speed crafts.

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On Oct 29, 9:18 pm, "LKYs Mother" wrote:
I think the chinese and indians should arrange a mission
to mass and select unmarried male and female crew
members and give them strict instructions that they
are not to have sex on board but are allowed to get
married and have sex after they have landed on mars.


Most will become dead or wishing they were before ever reaching Mars,
and none are ever returning to Earth as dead or alive. So, it's a one-
way ticket to ride that'll likely only end up costing us a cool
trillion of our hard earned loot per soul that's going to remain
forever on Mars. Remember to send salt along with those having such a
spendy death wish.
- Brad Guth -



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Old October 31st 07, 05:48 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

On Oct 30, 3:13 pm, "LKYs Mother" wrote:
maybe then we need to invent luminal speed crafts.


Not really, as such interstellar migrations between local star systems
isn't all that insurmountable at .01 c(3,000 km/s), and of much slower
(perhaps as little as .0001 c) if you so happen to have an icy proto-
moon to ride.
- Brad Guth -


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Old November 1st 07, 11:59 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
LKYs Mother
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

but still one day we still need luminal speed crafts
to avoid over crowding the vicinity.

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Oct 30, 3:13 pm, "LKYs Mother" wrote:
maybe then we need to invent luminal speed crafts.


Not really, as such interstellar migrations between local star systems
isn't all that insurmountable at .01 c(3,000 km/s), and of much slower
(perhaps as little as .0001 c) if you so happen to have an icy proto-
moon to ride.
- Brad Guth -




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Old November 1st 07, 05:36 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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On Nov 1, 3:59 am, "LKYs Mother" wrote:
but still one day we still need luminal speed crafts
to avoid over crowding the vicinity.


But do remember, at aything above .5c you can't hardly if ever alter
course. So, you'd best know exactly where you're going, or else.
- Brad Guth -

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Old November 3rd 07, 07:02 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,sci.space.policy,soc.culture.singapore,alt.astronomy
LKYs Mother[_2_]
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Default Minimum size of a Mars mission that could potentailly survive indefinately

Actually with new knowledge anything could be
done. Which mean turns could be made even at
greater speeds if the technology permits.


"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Nov 1, 3:59 am, "LKYs Mother" wrote:
but still one day we still need luminal speed crafts
to avoid over crowding the vicinity.


But do remember, at aything above .5c you can't hardly if ever alter
course. So, you'd best know exactly where you're going, or else.
- Brad Guth -



 




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