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Old October 21st 07, 01:52 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"The theory presented in this article introduces new unknown
relationships that may shed new light on the nature of matter. This
theory allows the calculation of the gravitational constant (G) with a
precision comparable to the other atomic constants, gives a direct
relation between mass and charge of the electron without the need of
the ubiquitous "classical electron radius" and generates a second fine
structure constant while also offering the disconcerting possibility
of an anti-gravitational force."

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/A...io/DiMario.htm

Double-A

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Old October 21st 07, 02:02 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Fast rotation of the Planck mass generates three fundamental
particles: the neutrino, spinning at the speed of light and totally
inert; the electron, spinning at a speed slower than c and mildly
active and the quark, much slower than c. It takes part in the most
violent and energetic nuclear reactions."

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/A...io/DiMario.htm

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Old October 21st 07, 02:34 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Double-A It is my spin is in theory coming to light. Could bot get into
site. Tell me more. In my theory electron cloud spins at 'c' Neutrinos
do interact,and we can measure how many do in a given amount of time.
The Sun being the source of neutrinos.and going through large pools of
water Japan has the biggest pool and most detectors to light up when one
neutrino out of trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion finally hit
an atom. Spin is the force that dominates the micro realm. and the
macro realm My spin theory creates the waves that is the heart of QM
theory. It answers hard questions. It is my best theory "Spin is in"
Bert

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Old October 21st 07, 02:36 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Oct 21, 5:52 am, Double-A wrote:
"The theory presented in this article introduces new unknown
relationships that may shed new light on the nature of matter. This
theory allows the calculation of the gravitational constant (G) with a
precision comparable to the other atomic constants, gives a direct
relation between mass and charge of the electron without the need of
the ubiquitous "classical electron radius" and generates a second fine
structure constant while also offering the disconcerting possibility
of an anti-gravitational force."

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/A...io/DiMario.htm

Interesting indeed. In Wolter's model, using (his concept of) the
ground state H atom for illustration, the *proton* is the true BH
analog. The surrounding electron shell or 'cloud' interfaces with it
at the proton's 'event horizon'. The double-ended 'bathtub drain'
inflow reaches the speed of light at said 'event horizon'. See-
http://community-2.webtv.net/oldcoot...ang/page4.html

As stated here many times, the flowing-space model seamlessly unifies
gravity and the strong nuclear force, identifying it as one and the
same Flow at different levels of manifestation. There's the oft-
repeated analogy of the river; first it's wide, placid and slow
moving, then as the channel narrows, it gradually accelerates forming
rapids ("quantum fluctuations"), then accelerating exponentially to
plunge over the waterfall ("event horizon"). oc


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Old October 21st 07, 03:20 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Hey AA. Dig this excerpt from the text:

" ...this is because no rotation was taken in account. A very fast
rotation should be considered instead, and, in the case of a black
hole, there would be only a small kernel, probably surrounded by an
intense energy field."

Does this not perfectly describe the H atom illustration just given?

Notice under 'Conlusions', it talks about "time collapsing near the
Planck mass". This dovetails with your perception of time stoppage (as
perceived by us 'out here', of course) which would give the appearance
of solidness to the **processes** which are atomic particles.
The authors are constrained to operate within
the constraints of the void-space paradigm of course, resulting in a
large amount of mathematical `descriptions` and no real unification of
anything.


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Old October 21st 07, 05:51 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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oldcoot wrote:
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As stated here many times, the flowing-space model seamlessly unifies
gravity and the strong nuclear force,


Only in 'wishful thinking'.

There's the oft-repeated analogy of the river;


....and no evidence to support it.
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Old October 21st 07, 08:03 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"The situation improves if we endow the rotating mass with a strong
magnetic field. The equation would look now as follows:

mf2 = mr2 - mr2 Bk u2 / c2

Where Bk would be a dimensionless term related to the magnetic field
strength of the rotating mass. In this case there is no need to rotate
the disk at prohibitively high speed, the weight reduction should be
now within reach of our instruments. The reduction could be so strong
to render mass mr weightless, not only, but we could reach a point
where, at a certain rotational speed, the right term of the above
equation would become negative hinting at the possibility of a real
antigravitational force."

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/A...io/DiMario.htm

Antigravity can be the only explanation for the particle jets
streaming out along the pole lines of rapidly spinning black holes,
with the jets often being observed to reach "apparently" superluminal
speeds. If space-time itself is being dragged along for the ride, I
see no reason why the speeds could not be really superluminal.

Double-A


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Old October 21st 07, 08:17 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Oct 21, 12:03 pm, Double-A wrote:

"The situation improves if we endow the rotating mass with a strong
magnetic field. The equation would look now as follows:

mf2 = mr2 - mr2 Bk u2 / c2

Where Bk would be a dimensionless term related to the magnetic field
strength of the rotating mass. In this case there is no need to rotate
the disk at prohibitively high speed, the weight reduction should be
now within reach of our instruments. The reduction could be so strong
to render mass mr weightless, not only, but we could reach a point
where, at a certain rotational speed, the right term of the above
equation would become negative hinting at the possibility of a real
antigravitational force."

http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/A...io/DiMario.htm

What they're still not 'getting' is that unless there is an
acceleration(or deceleration) component to the apparatus' spin, there
can be no gravitic(or antigravitic) effect. Those experiments with
spinning superconductors by the European Space Agency (posted earlier
in another thread) bear this out. The ESA is just beginning to 'get'
the fact that without acceleration there is no gravity, which puts
them at just about the 'Franklin's Kite' stage. oc



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Old October 21st 07, 08:48 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Oct 21, 12:17 pm, oldcoot wrote:
On Oct 21, 12:03 pm, Double-A wrote:





"The situation improves if we endow the rotating mass with a strong
magnetic field. The equation would look now as follows:


mf2 = mr2 - mr2 Bk u2 / c2


Where Bk would be a dimensionless term related to the magnetic field
strength of the rotating mass. In this case there is no need to rotate
the disk at prohibitively high speed, the weight reduction should be
now within reach of our instruments. The reduction could be so strong
to render mass mr weightless, not only, but we could reach a point
where, at a certain rotational speed, the right term of the above
equation would become negative hinting at the possibility of a real
antigravitational force."


http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/A...io/DiMario.htm


What they're still not 'getting' is that unless there is an
acceleration(or deceleration) component to the apparatus' spin, there
can be no gravitic(or antigravitic) effect. Those experiments with
spinning superconductors by the European Space Agency (posted earlier
in another thread) bear this out. The ESA is just beginning to 'get'
the fact that without acceleration there is no gravity, which puts
them at just about the 'Franklin's Kite' stage. oc



Well, a black hole is accelerating its spin because it is in a state
of collapsing. While the rate of it's spin and it's acceleration
become imperceptibly slow from our frame of reference because of the
time difference, could it be that the antigravitational force from its
accelerating spin creates becomes frozen in place?

Double-A


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Old October 21st 07, 10:43 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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D. Ismay
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oldcoot wrote:
[...]
As stated here many times, the flowing-space model seamlessly unifies
gravity and the strong nuclear force,


Only in 'wishful thinking'.

There's the oft-repeated analogy of the river;


...and no evidence to support it.


Careful, anyone who tells this to Bill is guilty of faulty thinking due
to being shackled by the Void-Space Paradigm, and will end up in the
"slushpile".

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