How fast does the sun move in space?

I know we live in an aparently expanding universe, but is there any way of
working out how fast the sun is moving relative to space itself, ie not just
another object in space? Why would it matter? well lets imagine that in
fact it is not the whole Universe that is expanding but that the big bang
was just one particular piece of matter that exploded and we are part of the
debris moving outwards. But say there were other objects already in space
that were not moving., or perhaps were part of another big bang somewhere
else and are moving in a completely different direction. At some stage
could we not hit them at some enormous speed?
terry

I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.


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"d&tm" wrote in message
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I know we live in an aparently expanding universe, but is there any way of
working out how fast the sun is moving relative to space itself, ie not
just
another object in space? Why would it matter? well lets imagine that in
fact it is not the whole Universe that is expanding but that the big bang
was just one particular piece of matter that exploded and we are part of
the
debris moving outwards. But say there were other objects already in space
that were not moving., or perhaps were part of another big bang somewhere
else and are moving in a completely different direction. At some stage
could we not hit them at some enormous speed?
terry

d&tm wrote:
I know we live in an aparently expanding universe, but is there any way of
working out how fast the sun is moving relative to space itself, ie not just
another object in space? Why would it matter? well lets imagine that in
fact it is not the whole Universe that is expanding but that the big bang
was just one particular piece of matter that exploded and we are part of the
debris moving outwards. But say there were other objects already in space
that were not moving., or perhaps were part of another big bang somewhere
else and are moving in a completely different direction. At some stage
could we not hit them at some enormous speed?

Space is to water as a rubber-ducky going down a draining tub is to a star
slip-streaming a purple hole.

"Starlord" wrote in message
. ..
I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems to
be , the faster it seems to move.
terry

Remember the sun is in an ORBIT within the Milkway and thus it's moving
alone with the monement of the galaxy.


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Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.


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http://home.inreach.com/starlord
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"d&tm" wrote in message
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"Starlord" wrote in message
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I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems
to
be , the faster it seems to move.
terry

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"d&tm" wrote:


"Starlord" wrote in message
. ..
I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems to
be , the faster it seems to move.
terry


The orbital speed of the Sun around the galactic centre is less then 220
km s^-1

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In article ,
"d&tm" wrote:

"Starlord" wrote in message
. ..
I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems to
be , the faster it seems to move.

More like, the bigger the thing that it's orbiting. A tiny grain of dust
or ice from the Oort Cloud shares the Solar System's orbital motion
around the Galaxy, in addition to its own motion around the Sun.

The Sun is thought to take something like a quarter of a billion years
to complete one of its 170,000-lightyear orbits, which works out in
round figures to a speed of about 1/1500 of the speed of light, or 200
km/s (450,000 mph).

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Odysseus wrote:
In article ,
"d&tm" wrote:

"Starlord" wrote in message
. ..
I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems to
be , the faster it seems to move.

More like, the bigger the thing that it's orbiting. A tiny grain of dust
or ice from the Oort Cloud shares the Solar System's orbital motion
around the Galaxy, in addition to its own motion around the Sun.

The Sun is thought to take something like a quarter of a billion years
to complete one of its 170,000-lightyear orbits, which works out in
round figures to a speed of about 1/1500 of the speed of light, or 200
km/s (450,000 mph).

Considering that each orbit is successively shorter, we can expect a
decrease in the time it takes to traverse each of these ensuing orbits
(which, if we were to be stationary in relation to space and time, produces
an apparent increase in 'speed').

In article ,
ah wrote:

Odysseus wrote:
In article ,
"d&tm" wrote:

"Starlord" wrote in message
. ..
I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is
moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems
to
be , the faster it seems to move.

More like, the bigger the thing that it's orbiting. A tiny grain of dust
or ice from the Oort Cloud shares the Solar System's orbital motion
around the Galaxy, in addition to its own motion around the Sun.

The Sun is thought to take something like a quarter of a billion years
to complete one of its 170,000-lightyear orbits, which works out in
round figures to a speed of about 1/1500 of the speed of light, or 200
km/s (450,000 mph).

Considering that each orbit is successively shorter, we can expect a
decrease in the time it takes to traverse each of these ensuing orbits
(which, if we were to be stationary in relation to space and time, produces
an apparent increase in 'speed').


AFAICT - the orbit doesn't degrade.

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On Apr 16, 1:21 pm, ah wrote:
Odysseus wrote:
In article ,
"d&tm" wrote:

"Starlord" wrote in message
m...
I have read in an artical about the speed that our solar system is moving
at
in it's ORBIT of the milkyway and while it fast compaired to a race car,
it's still very slow when compaired to the speed of light.

The moon moves around the earth at about 3000mph , the earth moves around
the sun at about 66000 mph. My intuitions thinks the Sun probably moves
faster than that. Dont ask me why, its just that the bigger a thing seems to
be , the faster it seems to move.

More like, the bigger the thing that it's orbiting. A tiny grain of dust
or ice from the Oort Cloud shares the Solar System's orbital motion
around the Galaxy, in addition to its own motion around the Sun.

The Sun is thought to take something like a quarter of a billion years
to complete one of its 170,000-lightyear orbits, which works out in
round figures to a speed of about 1/1500 of the speed of light, or 200
km/s (450,000 mph).

Considering that each orbit is successively shorter, we can expect a
decrease in the time it takes to traverse each of these ensuing orbits
(which, if we were to be stationary in relation to space and time, produces
an apparent increase in 'speed').

This is not correct. What makes you think that the orbits get shorter.
The opposite is just as likely.

Bill