On 2003-09-04, Paul Maxson wrote:
"Stephen Stocker" wrote in message ...
On 2003-09-03, Paul Maxson wrote:
This seems like a good place to jump in.

I was extracting the E204 video to .png images this morning because I
was fairly sure I was seeing the ID band on the left SRB after the
explosion, and wanted to be sure. I also wanted a better look at the
flare from the right SRB (according to the official version). For me,
that's been a really informative video. But I can't find anything in
it to cast doubt on the Rogers findings as I understand them so far. A
lot of this is still fairly new to me, but for whatever it's worth,
that's what I see.

E-204 is good, E-202 is better. My knowledge is some have 35mm or worse.
Some may even have 70mm (somewhere.) The closer you get to original the better
imagery you get which is critical for trying to spot what is being discussed.
Some may even have peices of E-204 or E-207. I think it comes down to E-202 70mm telling
the whole story once and for all. That is not available. Why? It seems like
every time someone asks a good question it just generates more questions (ever notice that?)

How long is your E-204 and what is IT made from? 35MM?

Yeah, I have the 35mm, 45 f/s, 96 seconds. I don't *think* I have
anything from E-202. Looking at the camera locations, it should be in
a good position. And I agree, the closer to an original, the better.
What I don't know is how high the quality was in the originals, and
I'm not too knowledgeable about photography. Or much of anything else
pertaining to any of this, but at least I can say now that I'm not
totally ignorant. LOL.

Today he posted that NASA refused to release the
best video they had available! He is telling you , you just are not reading it. (E-202)
It doesn't help when others (Jon Berndt) claim to have read his testimony to Rogers that
is *sealed*. BS. Why is it sealed anyway? Ever wonder that? Did you even go look to see
what section of the report he testified under? Why don't you try a little Moe?

This was a question I'd been wanting to ask, because I didn't know
your dad did testify. I found his name in Appendix A under "Interviews
on Safety, Reliability and Quality Assurance", but nothing further. Do
you have that testimony? I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I'm
somewhat swamped!

They sealed his testimony and double restricted it (or so the story goes.)
Obviuosly you can't go around accusing large companies and agencies
of what he has and stay out of jail if you are lying right? Because then
they would have to take it all to trial and they don't want that!

Oh, OK. I thought I was losing the rest of my mind, because I found
the name but no testimony!

Dad has it on tape and I think the FBI were on tape at some time too.
My dad has lots of tapes..... Lot's of info that paint people in a bad light trust me on that.

Paul, nothing whatever would surprise me, which is why I'm trying to
sort this out. I haven't automatically dismissed conspiracy theories
for a number of years, and anyone who claims they do doesn't believe
that bin Laden had a hand in the WTC destruction. Weird analogy, my
brain's tired.

I honestly wish I had the cash to spare, because whatever I believe,
your father isn't stupid and the book would be worthwhile reading.

Maybe we can work together on this. How much do you need? I like your cause
that you fight for (from your web page.) I would donate some to it.

Thanks, I appreciate that. I'm hoping I can manage to order it in a
few weeks. Everytime I think I'm ahead, something else breaks, lol!
Most recently, the CD drive went south yesterday morning while I was
extracting stills from the video. The only good thing is that the
price dropped $30 in little more than a year for a faster rewriteable.

Anyway, the point of all that is $35 ordinarily wouldn't be a problem,
even for me.

I don't doubt that he got a raw deal, that seems to be almost a rule
among corporations. But I don't think it's a reflection of all
Lockheed employees.

Most certainly not but as I posted before being a Whistle Blower sucks. I was one.
What bothers me about Jon's 10 page deal is he doesn't consider my dad a Whistle Blower
but he sites Bjoisly as one (in direct contridiction with Henry Spencer who is more Senior.)
My dad was a Whistle Blower and suffered the consequences of being one and it is
not up to someone like Jon to determine that. He simply goes too far.

I think one of the reasons this is such a hot issue is precisely
because it involves your family, Jon's colleagues, and friends of
various people in this group. I think I mentioned once that it's a
*lot* easier for somebody like me to sit back, detached from it all,
and see what everybody's trying to say. Just an opinion, but the more
I read, the more I feel it. It's also why I post so much about the
really abusive things that are said. I feel like doing what you did,
with the "Insert question here" post. Frustrating.

The questions you ask are legitimate, which is another reason I wish I
had the book! I'm the classic example of a little knowledge being a
dangerous thing, lol.

Se my response above about your cause.

I really do appreciate it, but I'm hoping I can manage it shortly. I'd
been thinking about it since I ran across Oversoul's posts a week or
so ago. That was a fascinating collection, and he seemed to be fair in
his representation.

This bothers me also, as I've probably said. And frankly, I'd be
defensive also. The hard part is sorting out who's playing games and
who's really interested. I'm not sure I have any answers. Actually,
I'm not sure why I'm answering questions addressed to Moe, but the
thread struck me as an important one.

Indeed, the booster crossing if proven correct will say the PCR is wrong!

Without a doubt!

Paul, those web sites (including your dad's) got me more interested in
the subject. I took the .pdf as an attack on a theory, rather than
against a person. I don't think they harm anyone, and they can't
damage the pursuit of truth. Or so I believe!

Well, that is good to hear. The facts are not fully out to all aspects of Challenger or Columbia
(that is my personal opinion.)

I can't argue with that, I'm not even through plowing through the
official Challenger report, and haven't done more than glance at the
CAIB report. I think I need 27 hour days!

A "retired janitor" is one of the nicer things that guy has called
him, but all he does is make himself look stupid by resorting to that
behavior. This group is well aware of my opinions on *that* subject!

Yeah, not worth even bringing up. Sort of like a hairball.

LOL. As far as I'm concerned!

Understanding, common decency and respect always go a long way. I
think that's part of the reason I jumped in here. I think Moe's
genuinely interested, but it may not sound that way in a group which
contains a certain element whose favorite hobby is attacking your
family.

I think he is too, but I am not my father so it's not up to me. I tried though.

Well, I can understand, I think. I often wonder who's really serious,
and I also misjudge people's motives. I think it's called being human?

I hope this makes some sense, my poor brain's almost asleep. (Worse
than usual! )

Steve