On Mar 31, 10:40*am, doug wrote:
bobd wrote:
Einstein's proposal to do away with the aether is chiefly remarkable
for the lack of understanding of the physical universe which it
displays. Sir Issac Newton himself denounced those who believed action
could accur across empty space as not having a competent faculty of
thinking in philosophical matters. In his letter to Bently 1692-3 Feb
25 he says:

That gravity should be innate, inherent and essential to matter, so
that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum,
without the mediation of anything else, by and through which their
action and force may be conveyed from one to another, is to me so
great an absurdity, that I believe no man who has in philosophical
matters a competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into it.

The universe does not care what is pleasing to you. You are doing
philosophy, not science. Philosophy has nothing to do with
science. It is what you do when you cannot do science.



Philosophy has everything to do with science hence the term natural
philosophy. Which was the old name for physics. That it the chief aim
of men in science, to find out how the universe works, not just the
equations for it. Ask any esteemed, dedicated scientist and they will
tell you they long to find out how the universe works. Look at
Einstein not only did he state the maths but also the supposed reason
(Bending of space time) If he was into "science" as you say it is then
he would have not givern the bending of space time theory and Newton's
equations would be all that was needed.




Gravity must be caused by by an agent acting constantly according to
certain laws.

Dr Silberstein, who had made a careful study of Einstein's theory and
thus pointed out the bizarre conclusions drawn by some pure
mathematicians who are prone to forget that the deflections of
starlight near the sun is a purely physical problem as the refraction
of light in the earth's atmosphere. The sun's deflection of light is
similar to refraction, but very minute - half of it being 0.875", as
against 2000 in earth's atmosphere, which is about 2300 times
smaller.

According to the report of observers of the eclipse of 1919, this
miunte deflection disappears, when the sun moves out of the path of
the light from the stars lying behind it, such a temporary effect
cannot properly be attributed to a warp of space; and one cannot
reflect how fortunate it is that the physical theory of astronomical
refraction was perfected by Newton, Laplace and Bessel before such
confusing terms as fourth dimension space time manifolds were
introduced into science.

It cannot be held that Einstein's theory enlightens us on the motion
of mercury's perihelion, because at least half a dozen explanations,
some of them approved by Newton, Hall, Newcomb,and Seeliger, are
already known.

Well, relativity is the one that gets it right. There is also a
century of other experimental verification of relativity.

Read these hypothesis put forward some of them get it right to.





Nor can it be believed that the Global positioning system works purely
based on the space time warp when it can much easily and less
mystically be explained by the dragging of the universal medium around
the earth as proven by the esteemed french scientist Sagnac and
constantly monitored by the huge Ring Lazer located in underground
caverns in my home town. Those who believe that this is a space time
warp need to have a look into practical thinking and stay away from
star trek.

Your ignorance is not a scientific argument. Sagnac has nothing to
do with the gps. You are the one dreaming and hoping your delusions
will become real.


No shiit sherlock. But the sagnac effect is related to GPS, if you
imagine the aether to be dragged around the earth as the ring lazers
prove. The only reason the aether was disputed in the first place was
because they could not find the "wind" of it that was meant to travel
through the earth. When sagnac discovered that it was in fact being
dragged around the earth it was too late as Einstein's theory had
crept in and taken over like the plague.



But these of course will never even be looked at by mainstream science
because it would go against the faith in your religon you call
science. Every single scientific report that contradicts Einstein is
buried in haste or manipulated around his theory.

Since there is a century of experimental support for relativity,
your paranoia looks pretty stupid.

* Just look at the

faster than light experiment. FIrst of all it was claimed that it
simply couldn't happen and when they realised that it was actually
happening and couldn't be denied it was put down to it arriving before
it was sent or non physical realities.

There have been no demonstrations of this. There are various usenet
cranks claiming it. If you have a reference to science, show it.
Otherwise you are lying.

http://www.livescience.com/technolog...low_light.html
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/as...s/000530b.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/781199.stm

the part that states "In the other experiment, a pulse of light that
enters a transparent chamber filled with caesium gas reaches speeds
300 times the normal speed of light.

According to the researchers, the main part of the light pulse leaves
the far side of the chamber even before it enters at the near side! "

Of course it's hotly disputed because it would put an end to the
religeon of relativity.


* This is stupid and I expect

more from the esteemed men in science as some are of brilliant mind
but have been brainwashed by space time warps. Wake up people!!!

Well, you have shown no problems with relativity. You have shown you
do not like it and do not understand it but that has no effect on
the validity of it.

You are partly right that I have shown no errors, only paradoxs
(Decreasing speed of pioneer space craft, increased unexplained speed
when slingshotting.) I am saying that there is a much simpler way of
understanding the universe than what is givern at the moment. I am
also stating that if people had accepted the aether long ago then man
would have almost worked worked out the universe long ago.

There is no proof that the aether does not exhist. The M-M experiement
simply showed that it was dragged around by the earth, as Sagnac found
out. I'll say it once again, by this time it was too late and because
einsteins math's lined up with the results it was taken as a proof of
bending space time, even though this is absurd.