On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:00:34 -0700, Benj wrote:


Anyone notice the MONSTER thread on Gobal Warming? It's actually too huge
to read on Google!

What is clear that Global Warming like "gun control" is a political agenda
where lies abound and ethical science goes out the window.

We find paid minions of the "desired" view infesting the Usenet and using
clever wording and lies to further their agenda.

The Global warming thing is a great example.

They say global warming is real (it is!) Then try to make the case that
some politicians (Bush) have tried to deny global warming. (He has in the
past) Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason
of a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming. Then comes
"proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global ocean
temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.)

Bottom line we all must accept global warming as due to our SUVs and power
plants or these guys will call us nasty names!

Brrrrr! I'm shaking in my boots!

This is all identical to the "gun control" debate where firearm ownership
is tied by the propagandists to higher crime rates. Too bad all
scientific studies including the ones mandated by Congress and done by the
CDC found NO such connections.

So what am I getting at here? These issues are NOT what I'm talking
about. I"m not trying to forward a political agenda here, save ONE: To
take the POLITICS out of Science!

Science, it seems has developed a certain amount of well-deserved
credibility in the public perception. So it isn't surprising that those
with a political agenda would try to USE that public credibility to
further their political agendas. What I'm saying here is that we
scientists, need to stand up and speak out. No, not take sides in the
debate lies. And certainly not to join all the noise of name-calling and
"proofs by assertion" that characterize political "debates".

No! We need to squawk loud and often about this SUBVERSION of the
integrity of Science by political agendas. When lies are all over the
media being held up as "science" someone needs to point it out and when
prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back and the
schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science for political
purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE start speaking out
instead of going along with those pretending there is a "scientific"
debate where there actually is none!

You are spot on. Get a good newsreader and join the fray. We need more
people with science backgrounds.