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Old September 14th 18, 08:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gary Harnagel
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Default Neil DeGrasse Tyson headed down same loony road as Carl Sagan?

On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 7:41:44 AM UTC-6, wrote:

On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 7:24:41 AM UTC-5, Gary Harnagel wrote:

As John pointed out, science requires faith in certain things, too:
"Scientists accept on faith that the laws of nature are consistent
and intelligible."


This is simply not true. If observation and data call into question a
basic law of nature, human understanding of science would change but
would continue.


Sure, science would continue, but some scientists would be left in
the dust because they couldn't adapt. Saint Albert and QM is a case
in point. I would hope that I'm flexible enough to embrace new
evidence, whatever it is.

On the other hand, just to use the Abrahmic religions as example, the
belief systems simply could not continue if one accepts the
archaeological evidence that 13 Jewish tribes after a long period of
captivity in Egypt wandered into the Levant, that Jesus was both human
and god, or that Mohamed's writings were inspired by some infinitely
powerful being.


I don't know what your point is. The Abrahamic religions DO continue
"even though" they believe those things you list.

A good current example of what was considered a fundamental base of
science being scattered without destroying scientific inquire itself
is the current challenges to Darwin's theory of evolution from
developments in biochemistry. Data no longer supports that evolution
must occur over generations as Darwin and successive generations
believed. While this is certainly shaking up evolutionary inquiry,
evolution as a branch of science does and will continue to exist.


I wasn't aware of this in particular; however, there has been an under-
current for a long time:

“Life cannot have had a random beginning … The trouble is that there
are about two thousand enzymes, and the chance of obtaining them all
in a random trial is only one part in 10^40,000, an outrageously small
probability that could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted
of organic soup.” – Fred Hoyle

So there must be some undiscovered shortcuts or life began elsewhere
long, long, long ago. Maybe even before the Big Bang?