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**Bob Haller**

On Mar 31, 10:04*am, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 31, 6:48*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Mar 31, 2:34*am, winno wrote:

I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.

Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.

I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.

Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war.

Using Robots to *work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.

cwwinson

It has obviously been a whole lot worse off than reported from the
very get-go. *At this point it’s a no-win kind of situation, of
happenstance damage-control and taking the least evil path.

“Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear
Plant”
*http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/wo...an.html?src=mv

*Perhaps if there were basic IR images of each reactor (easily
obtained via ground or helicopter), they'd show us petty much exactly
what the reactor vessel and spent-fuel situation is at each unit.
Since those IR images are not being made available, it must be
considerably worse then we're being told. (same reason or
dysfunctional logic of obfuscation as to why portable deployed geiger
counters that would have given us live readings posted directly to the
internet, as such also haven’t been allowed, means it’s much worse
than reported)

"Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nucl...
*Reactor No.2 is in terminal meltdown. *No objective evidence (not
even IR imaging) to suggest that No.3 isn’t headed down the same path
of no return, along with No.1 and even the spent fuel of No.4 and all
others soon to follow the same path of no return.

Perhaps what’s needed is more like a few dozen local pipe welders/
cutters that could make those massive reactor vessels and their spent
fuel cores ready for towing, using mile long cables and powerful ships
could drag those nasty red-hot glowing things right off their
foundations, over and through whatever else is in their way, and out
to sea.

So, at worst we’re talking about knowingly sacrificing a few dozen
brave souls in order to save millions, and as bad or immoral as that
may sound, it seems a viable trade off. *Humans (mostly lower caste
civilians and those that enlist) have been knowingly sacrificed for
far less, even mutually perpetrated and/or bogus wars started and
sustained as based entirely on bogus/false data and ulterior motives
of the rich and powerful, such as over greed, bully arrogance
(including government job security), ethnic cleansing and otherwise
just for your basic hoarding and global domination rights so as to
directly benefit the rich and powerful at the demise of as many lower
caste as it takes. *So how is this multiple reactor meltdown situation
any different or less worthy of human sacrifice?

At roughly twice as bad as Chernobyl, and only getting worse:
“The international team, using a measure of radioactivity called the
becquerel, found as much as 3.7 million becquerels per square meter;
the standard used at Chernobyl was 1.48 million.” *The options are at
best grim.

Perhaps the price for producing plutonium and other extremely valuable
elements has finally shown its true face that looks exactly like the
grim reaper, in that 90% of what we get to pay for nuclear energy is
what creating the seriously bad stuff demands, and this has been well
known from the very beginning, that us electrical energy consumers are
basically paying for everything that’s mostly intended for the mass
production of weapons grade plutonium, plus a few other elements that
are in high demand by those which we energy consumers and tax payers
have absolutely no control over.

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Japan haas done their best to cover up what they could. Just yesterday
they finally admitted the reactors that were pumped with ocean water
are scrap.

Heck everyone knew that from the firsty salt water injection.- Hide quoted text -

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake