On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 13:49:37 GMT, Bob Schmall
wrote:

RichA wrote:
On 2 Jul 2005 13:48:47 -0700, wrote:


Thomas Swanson wrote:

Global warming is a fact.

It's happening on Mars, too (based on smaller ice caps each year for
the
past 40+ years or so).

So unless you concede Martians are driving their SUVs with wild
abandon,
"something else" must be the cause (perhaps the Sun?).

I'd say "ocean warming" is more a fact than "global warming" if one
looks at
actual data.


Global warming supporters don't believe in data, they believe in
dogma.

A dogmatic statement.
Global warming is a factaccepted by the scientific community. The cause
is what's being debated, and unfortunately it's become so politicized
that objective discussion is almost impossible.

It hasn't become politicized, it was designed from day-one to BE
politicized. How else can you explain why 2/3 of the planet are
exempt from participating, principally, Indian and China whose
rapidly industrializing economies are producing more pollutants
than the U.S. and Western Europe and will produce more in the future?
Kyoto is a FRUAD and global warming is a mechanism to shift wealth
and jobs from the West to the "have nots."
-Rich