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Old November 4th 09, 01:45 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,alt.politics,sci.space.shuttle
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Default Ares1-X failure - new information


NASA is now stating in an article on Spaceflightnow that a) no
recontact occurred, and b) the spin was not entirely unexpected due to
the CG of the USS being well aft.



That's not correct, they said....

"We did not see any recontact between the upper stage and the first stage."

That's not the same thing as no contact occured.
That is NASA-speak for the age old political tactic
called 'plausible deniability'. No one can prove there
was contact, so they can deny it.


If nobody can prove there was recontact, then there wasn't any
recontact.

But we all saw the distance open up and close again just
before the upper stage ...immediately...started spinning.

I don't care where the CG was, it started spinning far
too quickly, contact is the only plausible explanation
to start something that massive spinning so suddenly.


In other words, facts need not apply. You've got your opinions, and
you don't care what they facts are.

D.


He told the facts you failed to read. Under low airload it should slowly
begin to spin and go faster. Instead it got a sudden spin just after
seperation. That only happens by a big none axial force. Recontact
is the most plausible. And a low amplitude thrust oscilation at burn
out is a good reason. NASA should have some data on it. That could happen
by long "grain" pipes and may be worse in a 5.5 segmented Ares I. Maybe
they gambled this time and hoped for clean cut off. Or it was age related.
This SRB was with 8 years older then allowed for Shuttle operations (5
years). Once it gets public Ares I gets hanged. Let the critter RIP.


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