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Old July 30th 07, 08:55 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics
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Default Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming!

On Jul 30, 12:00 pm, Benj wrote:

Then comes the huge "leap of faith" where CO2 is accused by reason of
a "greenhouse effect" to be the "cause" of global warming.
Then comes "proof" in the form of CO2 level charts that match global
ocean temperatures. (This "causality" is a lie.)


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when prizes are given for bogus research they need to be taken back
and the schools embarrassed! In short all this MISUSE of OUR science
for political purpose needs to stop and it's only going to stop if WE
start speaking out instead of going along with those pretending there
is a "scientific" debate where there actually is none!


Well stated.

I agree with the other poster. We need scientists like yourself to
get into the fray.

I've also noticed that it is both unproductive and unnecessary to try
to dispute or refute any of the assertions made by these AGW whackos.
Their thinking is too vague. Attempts to dispute it only confuse the
audience and leave them with the impression that, maybe, there is
something to this hoax. It's best to help them, encourage them, and
berate these whackos into explicating their thoughts on AGW. Once
this is done it becomes perfectly clear that these whackos are
whacked. In fact it becomes so clear that they themselves realize how
whacko they sound and immediately try to save face and discontinue the
conversation.