On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:53:37 -0800, DanielSan
wrote:
On 2/20/2012 11:49 AM, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 08:14:04 -0500, wrote:
On 2/20/2012 7:33 AM, Painius wrote:
There is no known way for any singularity to begin to expand under the
crushing weight of its own gravitational field. So why would any
reasonable scientist continue to believe that it were possible?
I'd call 'strawman' on this, but a strawman implies a
knowledge that the OP understands the lies he is fostering.
In your case, Painus, it's simple ignorance.
Gravity was born when the big bang started expanding.
All matter, all forces, all time, all EVERYTHING came into
existence with the big bang. There was no 'before'.
So, you seem to say that everything, to include the singularity, was
"born" with the Big Bang. So, that mother of all singularities was
able to expand simply because any gravitational field it would have
generated was evidently not yet "in place".
Actually, on the surface, that's not an exceedingly implausible
argument. Are you actually learning things by reading this newsgroup?
NaHHHHHHHHhhhh !
You're still an ignorant slut, HoVAC.
Gravitation is an instant phenomenon as shown by what would happen to
the orbits of the planets in our Solar system if it weren't an instant
phenomenon. So even if the singularity and its gravitation were both
"born" in the same instant, the gravitational field of the singularity
would be "in place" too quickly to allow any expansion of the
singularity. The Big Bang was an impossibility. Face it, and stop
your pronounced lack of civility.
One can, if one has enough energy, achieve escape velocity. It's
possible (again, this is all conjecture, at least, from me) that the Big
Bang "exploded" with such force that it achieved its own escape velocity
and the rate of "explosion" surpassed any recollapse....at least, for
the time being. 
I no see how, Daniel San. As soon as singularity is "there", its very
own most powerful gravitational field is there to contain it. It
would be like fart that no quite make it out of arse.
BALANCE, Daniel San, BALANCE! g
--
Indelibly yours,
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http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
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