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Old November 20th 07, 05:10 PM posted to sci.space.policy, sci.space.history
Eric Chomko[_2_]
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Default Is NASA a US "Defence Agency"?

On Nov 19, 3:41 pm, (Rand Simberg)
wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:33:36 -0800 (PST), in a place far, far away,
Eric Chomko made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:





For better or worse, SEI was dead for all practical purposes by
mid-1991, 18 months before Clinton took office. Sorry if that doesn't
suit your polticial preferences.


Face it, when Bush Sr. relied on Dan Quayle for his space plans it was
doomed from the get-go.


It was NASA, and Dick Truly, who killed SDI. It had nothing to do
with Quayle, you moron.


From Dan Quayle's wiki bio:


snip


You typed SDI, I was referring to SEI and Quayle's role in it.


It was a typo (the two keys are next to each other). I meant SEI.


A significant typo given the context of the subject. Perhaps you have
typos all the time? It would explain a lot.


No, it's relatively rare. There is zero significance other than, as I
already noted (apparently you were too stupid to read it) that they
"D" and "E" keys are adjacent.


Right, and I was pointing out other mistakes you have made that you
can't as easily toss off.


It appears that Quayle is not the only moron in this thread, Rand.


It only appears that way to the actual only moron in this thread. It
would have been obvious to a non-moron that I was referring to SEI,
since NASA and truly had nothing to do with SDI (though Quayle did--he
was the one who initiated the DC-X program).


Yet, Quayle was chairman of the Space Council and if you read the
section that you deleted (you ALWAYS do that when you are wrong, btw)
you will see exactly how he was connected to SEI.


I never denied that he was connected to SEI, you moron.


So, why did Truly kill SEI?


(Perhaps Quayle was just too dumb to kill SEI and Truly was called in.)


This is the stupidest thing you've typed yet in this thread.


Which still manages to be more intelligent than anything you've typed
on this thread.


I was going to state that VPs are often used to implement a
president's vision of space, etc. It would appear that only Cheny was
clearly NOT picked whereas LBJ for JFK, Quayle for Bush Sr. and Gore
for Clinton actually were.


All of which has nothing to do with what killed SEI. It was Dick
Truly who did so.


Because Dan Quayle didn't know the difference between Mars and a
potato!


No, it had absolutely nothing do with with what Dan Quayle knew about
either Mars, or potatoes.


You doubt Quayle is dumb? Perhaps he is sort of a folk hero of yours.
THAT, too, would explain a lot.


He even sent his legislative liaison to the Hill to
lobby against it.


And Bush and Quayle let him?


How were they supposed to stop him? He got fired for it, you moron.


So that overturned SEI? His firing made SEI viable again? Or did his
firing allow SEI to die?


Gee, I guess JFK was lucky Webb liked the
Apollo proposal rather than kill IT like Truly killed SEI.


(Yeah, you make about that much sense).


No answer here, huh?

Rand, if SEI was worth a crap, Truly would have been fired for trying
to kill it, perhaps, but another hired to take his place and then
revamp it. To allow Truly to "win" and fire him makes no sense. But
that is often the case of stuff you state so I am not surprised.

Oh, and please provide a reference to killing SEI being the case for
Truly's firing. Yes, I want to read the context of the event and you
are not to be believed otherwise. Note, I am not calling you a liar, I
am calling you to produce a reference to back up your claim.