On Nov 10, 1:11Â*pm, Painius wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:16:53 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:









On Nov 10, 1:18Â*am, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:44:23 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 3:38 pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:06:42 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Nov 9, 11:07 am, Painius wrote:

It seems very likely to me that space and dark matter are one and the
same.

Which means what is postulated as dark matter is aether. Which means
aether has mass. Which means aether physically occupies three
dimensional space. Which means aether is physically displaced by
matter. Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

That all sounds pretty true, if non-mainstream. My main question
would concern the *pressure* required behind what you call the
"aether". There would have to be some kind of power source that
pushes the aether into matter to cause gravitation.

Once more - you stated...

Which means displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward
pressure toward matter. Which means displaced aether pushing back and
exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

What is the source of the pressure that is exerted on the displaced
aether that causes it to exert inward pressure toward matter?

Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Where particles of
matter exist the aether is displaced.

And again, just like the battery in a DC circuit exerts a pressure
that moves current through the circuit, there must be a source of the
pressure that is exerted by the displaced aether. Â*In your opinion,
what is that source?

The source is the aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not.

The aether is, or behaves similar to a supersolid. Think of a
bowling alley filled with a supersolid. As you roll the ball toward
the pins the bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid
displaces the bowling ball as the supersolid displaces back. This all
occurs within the confines of the bowling alley. Consider the Universe
to be a very large bowling alley where aether exists everywhere
particles of matter do not.

The aether used to be considered an absolutely stationary space. This
is what the Michelson-Morley experiment looked for. The aether is not
an absolutely stationary space. Aether is displaced by matter.

In order to help conceptualize this, in a simplified view, think of
the aether as a stationary space except for the particles of matter
moving through it and displacing it.

Your bowling alley analogy works only so far as the walls, ceiling and
floor maintain the volume of the bowling alley, thus exerting the
pressure required by the displaced aether on the particles of matter.

The Universe, however, is not necessarily a walled in, closed in space
like the bowling alley. Â*So if we perceive the Universe as an
open-on-all-sides sort of place, then there are no walls, ceiling nor
floor to exert pressure on the supersolid, which in turn exerts
pressure (gravitational) on matter. Â*So in an open Universe, what do
you think the source of the pressure on the supersolid is?

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind; the thief doth fear each
bush an officer."

I understand aether exists everywhere particles of matter do not. I
understand this to mean where particles of matter exist the aether is
displaced. If you prefer to not understand this and choose to believe
in magic particles which flow toward the Earth and magically
transition from particle to energy back to particle again then that is
your choice.

'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the “fluidic� nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G ̈del metric'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53−αg,6a2 so, it is positive
if αg 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval αg 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether.

'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753

"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."

"mass of the aether"

'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168

"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."

'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135

"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."

'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892

"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of �aether� because of
the presence of the background field"