On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 2:31:47 PM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
What I'm getting here is that people are jumping on Oriel for his usual mistake

No, Gerald has some very specific mistakes in his head on this topic. He used to say things like:

Retrogrades of Venus take up its full motion from quadrature to quadrature when traveling in front of the Sun while it moves in the opposite direction against the stars when traveling behind the Sun.

He has learned not to use words like retrograde and quadrature which have specific meanings which he doesn't understand and gets wrong, which is why he now just says "Venus moves left and right of the Sun".

But if you read what he says, he still thinks it goes left and right like a moon of Jupiter. He does not grasp why it is in retrograde for less than 10% of the time, and he flat denies that the path of Venus across the stars includes little S shapes and closed loops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYwNvjr7Lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo8hImcsdhE