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Old September 23rd 18, 11:22 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Paul Schlyter[_3_]
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Default Neil DeGrasse Tyson headed down same loony road as Carl Sagan?

On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 07:35:32 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:44:04 +0200, Paul Schlyter
wrote:


On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:02:09 -0600, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
True agnosticism has nothing to do with atheism There are

agnostic
atheists and there are agnostic theists. Agnosticism has to do

with
the knowability of the question, it has nothing to do with

belief.

It has to do with the belief about the knowability. The

knowability
itself either exists or does not exist, independently of personal
beliefs.


Nevertheless, agnosticism is unrelated to theism or atheism. It
measures something different. Everyone who is informed is either an
atheist or a theist, it's just a matter of how strong their belief

is
either way.


Why is it mandatory to "choose side" here?

Imagine a bowl filled with fine grsined sand. How many grains of sand
are there in the bowl? Undoubtedly a very large number - but is that
large number an even number or an odd number? You will never know -
but what do you **believe**?

Do really everyone have to be an "evenist" or an "oddist"? If not,
why do everyone have to be a theist or an atheist? Why exclude the
alternative of refraining from choosing a belief here?