On Dec 11, 9:23*am, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
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*Brad Guth wrote:









On Dec 10, 9:18 am, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
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Brad Guth wrote:

I can introduce you th one of the men who developed it. He was the
Astronaut Office rep for the Lunar Lander at Grumman and flew the test
articles.

That's a very good plan, but is there anything he's going to offer or
be allowed to divulge that isn't already published?

Only that you are full of ****.

In other words, you FUD-masters still have no actual Apollo era fly-by-
rocket landers, but someday if we give you enough of our hard earned
loot and with no strings attached, you'll create such reliable and
easily controllable machines that don't hardly need fancy computers or
any of those powerful momentum reaction gyros, and they would offer us
fuel and payload to spare.

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Nobody said that it was easily-controlled.

That is why experienced, talented test pilots were chosen to fly them.
In fact, Armstrong had to eject from the trainer after he got into an
unrecoverable attitude/oscillation.

Only the likes of Guthy Gander look upon the task as impossible, owing
to their limited intellect or experience.

Except there was never a reliable prototype fly-by=rocket trainer to
learn any first-hand pilot expertise from, and essentially there still
isn't.