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Maybe Professor Dr. Pavel Kroupa of Bonn University is a complete
dickhead.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ro/Crapiro.htm
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Androcles


RKS:
Science is all about resolving contradictory observations.

Science is the observation, investigation and explanation of natural
phenomena, in that order. It is not the invention of dork matter
or black holes and then go looking for them.


RKS:
We share a dislike for the dark matter solution to contradictory
observations (observations that contradict theory), but this is more of a
question of *how* we resolve the contradictory observations. Do we retain
current theoretical underpinnings and explain new observation by appending
ever less solid theory to explain it? Or do we have another look at the
underlying model?

Look at the underlying model, of course. When you go down a blind alley
the solution is to back ALL the way out. If all the planets show retrograde
motion then the Earth is not the centre of the solar system. If spacetime
is curved is it convex or concave?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ro/Crapiro.htm

The later [latter- Ed.] has been avoided by modern cosmologists for
reasons other than
scientific ones. Either they don't have the imagination or are simply
incapable of generating alternative models, but either way it is a very
poor
reflection on modern cosmology in general.

It is prudent to consider a model that does not require ever more patches
to
staunch the theoretical leaks. Recalling Hoyle's model, which I also
didn't
like, he proposed that a tiny amount of hydrogen would have to be
generated
somehow to explain the apparent expansion of the universe. We now look at
the enormous amount of observation that require huge leaps of faith in the
current model and it is clear that the old Hoyle model was more robust to
the first approximation.


Quite so. The Hubble redshift nonsense has another explanation commensurate
with a steady state universe. It is quite simple, but you have to give up
faith
in only one speed of light, not to mention magical Big Bangs where matter is
created out of nothing. The Pope would approve of such idiocy, of course.
He has a backstop theory, "God made it", the instant answer to every
mystery.


Dark Matter appears to explain observations of the bullet cluster. But it
fails for the observations mentioned at the root of this thread.

Thus the article questions dark matter. I wonder why, if you are opposed
to
the idea of dark matter, you did not embrace these findings.

My comment was in reference to Professor Dr. Pavel Kroupa of Bonn University
challenging Newton and nothing to do with dork matter.
"Maybe Newton was indeed wrong", declares Professor Dr. Pavel Kroupa...
"Maybe Kroupa is a complete dickhead", declares Dr. Androcles.


Robert


If you have a contradictory observation, change the explanation.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/brokpen.jpg
Is the pencil really bent?
No, the light is.
'By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.' -
Galileo
Galilei


http://www.theastronomer.org/vars/20...3aql_LC_V2.gif
Does the nova really explode twice?
No, the light in your eye does.
'By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.' -
Galileo
Galilei

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...Lightcurve.xls

Is there dork matter?
Only for dorks.
'By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.' -
Galileo
Galilei

How many new and
more accurate theories evolved from observations that did not conform
to
contemporary theory?

You tell me.


Of course there are others who, secure on their flat Earth in the
middle
of
the universe, settle for shouting obscenities to all those who disagree
with
their world view...

Robert

And there are dorks who, secure on their flat Earth in the middle of the
universe, are more concerned with diplomacy than science.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ro/Crapiro.htm
Androcles.