On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:23:02PM +0000, Fred Hall wrote:
Uncle Steve wrote on 1/1/2012 in :

On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 02:56:08PM -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Robert Collins wrote:

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 09:38:03PM -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote:


Why are science and religion still at odds?
When will we have a unified view?


Never. The two bear no relationship to each other, nor should they.


People who want to reconcile the two generally mean that they want
science subordinate to religion,


No. There are people who want to use science to invalidate religion,
too.

Well I know that, duh.

The epistemology of religion is what really makes it fundamentally
incompatible with science and scientific inquiry. I'm not sure why we
don't have more discussion about that aspect of religion.


That's only part of the issue. The entire purpose of the two is
different (except to those people who abuse them).

Religion isn't at all comparable to science anyhow. Within
Christianity alone there are several distinct ontological levels
ranging from simple-minded biblical literalism to the plutocrats in
the Vatican who go about the work of managing the politics of the
faith. At least among real scientists, everyone is agreed on what
science is and how it should be done. Religionists can't even speak
about the epistemology of their faith without revealing the game to
outsiders.


Regards,

Uncle Steve

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I take that to mean you've run out of rhetorical road.



Regards,

Uncle Steve

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