On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 05:37:50PM -0000, Keith W wrote:
Robert Collins wrote:
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 09:38:03PM -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Jonathan" wrote:


Why are science and religion still at odds?
When will we have a unified view?


Never. The two bear no relationship to each other, nor should they.

People who want to reconcile the two generally mean that they want
science subordinate to religion, but there are those who would use
science (actually, technology) to impose their religion on the
'peasantry'. We would generally call those people plutocrats.


Plutocrats dont care a flying fig about the beliefs of the people.

That's arguable.

As long as they can hang on to power and wealth the people
can believe anything they want.

Do you think our putative plutocrats prefer an ignorant population or
an educated population?

The best historical example of a plutocracy was the ancient
Roman republic. The Romans adopted gods and belief systems
from around the mediterranean in a thoroughly promiscuous
manner.

They had civic institutions much like ours as well, or at least with
enough similarities to make direct comparisons more than just
possible. How would you characterize our plutocrats in the West? I'm
not really comfortable with the simplistic 99%/1% dichotomy that's
been recently popularized. We ought to be able to derive a better
taxonomy of class in the West.


Regards,

Uncle Steve

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10+ years disposessed and made to reside in a ghetto-gulag, plus
theft of intellectual property and sabotage of same.
20+ years denial of service by police and the judicial branch,
accompanied by state-sponsored attacks and character assasination by
right-tards, pigs, and their handlers.
= 30 years false sense of security from The Charter of Rights and Freedoms