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Old September 14th 18, 01:09 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default Neil DeGrasse Tyson headed down same loony road as Carl Sagan?

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 5:41:46 PM UTC-6, palsing wrote:
On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-7, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:


There is no conflict between science and religion...


Try telling that to a creationist...


Simply because there is a conflict between science and the religious beliefs
that some people hold, it is not necessarily the case that there is a conflict
between science and religion _per se_.

There are, after all, some religious people who are not Creationists.

Science has been described as a methodical application of common sense. It is,
therefore, a form of the use of reason.

Religion requires accepting certain things on faith. Should we conclude from
these premises that religion and science are in total opposition?

Before we can do that, we would have to ask: *what* things does religion ask us
to accept on faith?

If you look at Euclid's _Elements_, while the book is logical through and
through, it starts from five postulates that aren't proven by logic; they have
to be accepted as the starting point. That's not to say they're accepted on
faith, since they are things observed in every day experience.

Scientists accept on faith that the laws of nature are consistent and
intelligible.

So faith is part of science as well as part of religion.

And science draws conclusions about the physical world we live in.

While some religions may have tenets contrary to reason, the basic teachings
shared by most religious faiths don't come into conflict with what science
addresses.

Religion involves faith in things like:

- the Universe serves a meaningful purpose;

- other people have feelings like I do, and how I treat them matters;

- Justice, somehow, will eventually triumph, even if not where we see it;

These longings of the human heart are not in conflict with science. Even the
idea of a personal God is not incompatible with science, as many mainstream
Christian denominations demonstrate.

John Savard