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Old June 2nd 07, 04:29 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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Default DO RELATIVITY ZOMBIES UNDERSTAND RELATIVITY HYPNOTISTS?


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Tom Roberts: "if it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a
nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant
speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both
Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their
domains
of applicability would be reduced)."

Curiously Tom Roberts' theory (plagiarized from Jean-Marc
Levy-Leblond
and possibly other relativity hypnotists) according to which if
light
in vacuum does not travel at the invariant speed of the Lorentz
transform, special relativity would be unaffected

What is this so-called theory of his .. certainly its not described in
the
quote above .. are you having more delusions (in addition to replying
to
you
own posts).

Just ask Master Tom Roberts, e.g. in the following way:

"Oh Master Roberts, oh Albert Einstein of our generation (Hawking has
NEVER been the Albert Einstein of our generation), do you really have
a theory according to which, if light in vacuum does not travel at the
invariant speed of the Lorentz transform, special relativity would be
unaffected? If you do not have the theory, oh Divine Master, why do
you say so stupidly that, if light in vacuum does not travel at the
invariant speed of the Lorentz transform, special relativity would be
unaffected? Even the most mutilated zombie would not say so, oh Master
Roberts!"

Master Tom Roberts will reply in a private message.

So . .where is it Tom has said that?


Assume Master Tom Roberts has never said that, if light in vacuum does
not travel at the invariant speed of the Lorentz transform, special
relativity would be unaffected, and accordingly I am the author of
this statement, not Master Tom Roberts. Then would you find my (not
Master Tom Roberts') extended statement:

"if it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a nonzero mass
(i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant speed of the
Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both Maxwell's
equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains of
applicability would be reduced)."

extremely stupid?


I find all your statements extremely stupid


and all statements of Master Tom Roberts extremely perspicacious. That
is good. Your problem is that you do not know who is the author of the
following statement:

"if it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a nonzero mass
(i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant speed of the
Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both Maxwell's
equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains of
applicability would be reduced)."

If I am the author, the statement is extremely stupid. However if
Master Tom Roberts is the author, the statement is extremely
perspicacious. I think I am the author and therefore the statement is
extremely stupid. What do YOU think?

Pentcho Valev