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Old November 27th 16, 06:17 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default Using waste for propulsion ?

JF Mezei wrote:


100pax over 3-4 months will consume large amounts of food. That is a lot
of mass that you have to lift and accelerate out of earth's orbit
towards mars most of which will become waste. Not doing anything with it
means wasting that mass which you spent much fuel accelerating.


I know it's hard for you, but think about it. Most of the mass of
food (and feces) is water. You're going to get the water back for
recycling on the back side of the process. That means each person
will generate 1-2 ounces of solid waste per day once the water has
been recovered (and you'll get 3-6 ounces of water out of the same
waste stream). Let's use the larger number as more 'favorable' to
your case; 100 people (not sure what 'pax' are when they're up and
dressed) will generate around 12.5 pounds of solid waste per day. That
waste is a mix of dead bacteria, indigestible food elements like
cellulose, minerals, and indigestible fats. You're not going to turn
it into methane without giving up a lot of the recovered water and
even then most of it isn't going to 'convert'. Recovering the water
is more valuable, since you can make things like breathing air out of
that stuff. So you're going to accumulate a little over half a ton of
such cruft during the course of the trip.

Not much it can be used for, which is why they throw it away on ISS.
One of the reasons NASA is starting research on turning it into food
(growing fresh veggies and such) is the high mineral content; some
10%-20% by weight is minerals.

You know, this is a 'sci' newsgroup. Instead of just latching onto an
idea and defending it to the death, do some research yourself. It's
really not that difficult.


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