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Old July 25th 14, 01:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Time from Big Dipper/Polaris positions?

On Monday, July 21, 2014 2:12:59 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:

These celestial sphere nuisances constitute a disruptive bunch for


although the use of a system based on timekeeping averages spread across


the 1461 day system may be useful for the astronomical version of


trainspotting by magnification hobbyists it disrupts appreciation of the


great insights of astronomy including the new one which partitions


retrograde resolution between inner and outer planets.




Anyone,and I mean anyone, can easily identify the motion of Venus and


Mercury as they move out from behind the Sun and in the opposite


direction to the annual motion of the background stars and then move to


their widest point before swinging back in front of the central Sun.






Have you ever seen Mercury with your own eyes?

Copernicus never did.



I will answer you through this post Collins because there are a lot of unapologetic maggots out there burrowing holes in astronomy by asserting whatever comes into their heads. Not only did Copernicus and all the other astronomers in antiquity notice the motions of Mercury, they also noticed the inequality of the motions as the planets moved against the background stars.

You see Collins, Copernicus worked on a system where the Sun moved through the constellations whereas the only possible means to resolve inner planetary retrogrades is through the annual motion of the stars behind the central Sun insofar as when the inner planets are moving against the background stars as they emerge from behind the Sun they appear to move faster in their orbits so that when they turn back in front of the Sun and in the direction of the stars (due to the orbital motion of the Earth) they appear to move slower -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFrE7hWj0A


You fools ,for all your dourness, don't even understand your own system in the attempt to use RA/Dec as a common denominator for assessing planetary motions -

"That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun.This proportion, first observed by Kepler, is now received by all astronomers; for the periodic times are the same, and the dimensions of the orbits are the same, whether the sun revolves about the earth, or the earth about the sun." Newton

You all talk about 'predictions' and make a big show before the wider population but for all your propaganda, you turn out to be cheats who barely understand the basis of the 'predictive power' which has obscured the working language of astronomy and the perspectives which make it such an enjoyable experience.