On Jun 24, 9:08*am, Rich wrote:
On Jun 23, 2:10*pm, oriel36 wrote:





How hard is it (apart from the usual nuisances who reply) to determine
what role rotational inclination (tilt) actually plays and that it
does not cause the seasons ? .

The idea of 'no tilt/no seasons' is derived by a hypothesis from
Copernicus himself but the modified view replaces that view with
practical observations based on planetary comparisons where the cause
of the seasons is actually the orbital motion of the Earth and the
isolation of that motion and its characteristics.

A planet can have either Equatorial conditions such as the Earth or
polar conditions like Uranus based on what degree of 'tilt' exists but
of itself 'tilt' cannot cause the seasons,that dynamic is strictly the
specific way a planet orbits the Sun.The role of 'tilt' is therefore
restricted to seasonal characteristics and completely at variance with
the view of 'axial tilt to the orbital plane' or some such variation
of that theme -

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fsd/astro/season.php

I am not throwing good information after the 'climate change' mob whio
live and operate of a hyper fuss basis while not having any sense of
what causes basic temperature fluctuations of the day/night cycle due
to daily rotation or the seasonal cycle via orbital dynamics.

Is there any sane person,who can simply work out the reasons which
distinguish Earth from Uranus in terms of 'tilt' comparisons thereby
determining what role rotational inclination actually serves?.

http://astro.berkeley.edu/~imke/Infr..._2001_2005.jpg

For all the fuss over 'global warming' *and whether temperature spikes
are due to human or natural influences,until scientists explain the
basic seasonal temperature fluctuations correctly via astronomy and
planetary dynamics,they are being absolutely ridiculous in attempting
to correlate carbon dioxide with minor variations in temperature.

How intelligent do you need to be to understand what 'tilt' actually
does ?.

That is presuming you believe the climate change and C02 theories and
don't realize the people behind it are nothing but a cabal of World
government socialists and envirocrackpots working on the largest plan
yet to destroy the West.

Don't need to consider 'climate change' as it is understood in the
media , that has the same ring to it as Newton's attempt to correlate
terrestrial ballistics directly to planetary motion by throwing the
kitchen sink at it in order to make observations fit the
conclusions.As he used the predictive Ra/Dec conventions, amounting to
inverted references for daily and orbital motions,it now amounts to
showing what a waste of time and effort that turned out to be.If
people want to be fleeced individually or nationally to the tune of
billions by believing carbon dioxide has some magic property to
control global temperature then that is none of my concern,it looks
like the attempt to extract cash the same way denominational
Christianity once used indulgences once to expunge guilt except this
21st century version is more destructive.

I can point out that by far the greatest temperature fluctuations
are the seasonal variations between a week in January/February and a
week in July/August representing the specifics of planetary
dynamics.These temperature variations are cyclical meaning that they
are supposed to be completely understood along with the variations
which occur during the day/night cycle before moving on to long term
variations or adding inputs which distinguish astronomical,terrestrial
and human influences.Ask the 'climate change' scientists what causes a
rise in temperature from January to July and they don't know or
attribute 'axial tilt' as the cause whereas the major modification and
a nuanced approach is surely understood by any reasonable person here
- that rotational inclination dictates whether a planet has Equatorial
or polar characteristics in its seasonal cycle with orbital motion and
the specifics of that motion causing the temperature fluctuation when
allied with daily rotation.

I don't think it is possible for anyone to return to 'axial tilt' as
the dynamic for seasonal changes once they see the advantages of its
actual role.In the interest of stability and to prevent the atrocious
correlation between global temperature and carbon dioxide/pollution
from dominating all terrestrial and astronomical investigations,the
modification based on planetary dynamics and characteristics puts the
brakes on if only to demonstrate that the exclusion of astronomy has
terrible consequences.The problem is,as anyone familiar with the
'Pluto' disaster knows,is that there is no astronomical authority
worth speaking of.

Tell me,before everyone jumps over the carbon dioxide/global warming
precipice,would you go along with the following explanation for the
seasons ?,if you do then you belong with the opponents and proponents
of that reckless conclusion -

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/fsd/astro/season.php