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Default How cool is VL2

On Apr 14, 9:44 am, The Ghost In The Machine
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Assuming a scale height of 9 km (Google is being
maddeningly unclear on the matter), I get 6.3 * 10^19
moles for the entire atmosphere. Sulfuric acid would then
be 1.89 * 10^11 moles or 1.85 * 10^10 kg, again assuming
the 0.0000003%.


The first 9 km worth of that thick and robust Venus atmosphere is
sharing almost nothing to speak of. It's called cover thy butt
science, whereas fairly recently they had been using the first 15 km
worth, and thereby taking the revised 9 km worth of scale height is
what makes their old numbers look as those they'd actually been
honestly derived by way of the best available science. The true scale
height of the Venus atmosphere is actually worth a little better than
150 km, and possibly as great as 175 km.


This is far too much handwaving for my liking, admittedly, and
this acid would be distributed Venus-wide, making extraction
of all of it difficult.


Basic laws of physics blows most of your "handwaving" out the window.

Your naysayism and anti-think-tank mindset is per usual spoken like a
good little Third Reich minion. There's still a little too much brown
on that silly nose of your's, isn't there.

Those interesting and most likely extremely acidic clouds don't hardly
start in until getting well enough past the 40+ km mark (somewhat haze
worthy below 45 km), and there's still a good deal of a top side haze
that's going past the altitude of 100 km. At 150+ km there's even a
layer of what's mostly O2 to work with. By far the best part of the
Venusian atmosphere has been systematically excluded or otherwise
banished from what should have been the hot topic of understanding why
so little of that solar IR energy gets down to the deck.

It's roughly a 1 bar environment of what's most extensively S8 in the
atmospheric realm of 50 km. The element of S8 has a SG worth of 2 g/
cm3, and as you continue upward it's obviously getting even cooler
(less vapor and more of S8 solids to deal with), and that ratio of
elements should thereby become more worthy of becoming mostly Co2
that's clearly a less massive element than S8.

Just a few km below the 50 km mark (especially if going by that long
season of nighttime), there's a fairly robust layer of concentrated S8
to deal with. Of course h2o and S8 makes for a rather nasty acid,
that's likely to being wet anywhere near or above the 50 km mark.

John Ackerman offers a reasonably good interpretation of the best
available science, thereby shares his honest review and subsequent
analogy of what's available, and as such it's not nearly as slight as
we've been informed. There's simply more of that Venusian water to
behold, of what's likely formulated within those acidic clouds and
extensive zones or layer of haze, than is otherwise given credit by
the likes of whatever's suggested by way of our NASA and of having
obtained their mostly Jewish peer review's stamp of approval.

BTW; the GOOGLE/Usenet gauntlet of spermware/****ware is running
extremely hot and nasty these days, as my poor old PC keeps getting
nailed to death by an extra butt-load of their nasty crapolla, as it
deploys yet another tonne of their damage-control flak.
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Brad Guth