On Oct 25, 11:25*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 25, 8:31*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On Oct 24, 10:30*am, "hanson" wrote:

In any such discussion about the Big Bang theory
which was concocted by "running a time lapse
GEDANKEN scenario" BACK to coordinates 0,0,0,0
which then are/is interpreted to mean that this point
is the ONE original CENTER of the universe.....

... only to read elsewhere that there is NO center in
the universe... or equivalent that the center is
everywhere...

and that said universe actually expands, without
saying what said space expands into.. and

... glossing over the issue that all the centers then
expand into each other... to bring the universe back
into the original concept that the universe is static.

ROTFLMAO.... hahahahaha... ahahahahanson

"Forrest Piper" wrote:

On Oct 24, 11:51 am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Oct 24, 3:32 am, Painius wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 00:43:44 -0700 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
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Painius should (but won't) understand "the Big Bang theory"
(Lambda?CDM).
He just won't; doesn't want to, I assume.

"Mother Nature" is "The Supreme God": eternal, infinite and perfect.
She consumes fuel (EXergy); so, virtually , She's "alive".
[ : Certainly not limited to biblical times/places.
: in a notional sort of way, like a map, not real. ]

Speaking of God, you belong to tribes/religions of verious sizes.
Had you no "tribe", you'd have no "religion"; they are one and the
same.

Randomness is naught but ignorance; so, intrinsically , there is no
God,
and nature is at once "nothing" ( 4?D, changeless and choiceless )
and everything ( excluding nothing ).
[ : in reality, despite appearances ]

Humanity labors to breathe, eat, drink and breed.
Nature has hard?wired us this way, it wasn't our doing.
Our "objective" has been fixed by nature, not invented.

Speaking of "objectives", the one word mantra/question, "Target?",
clears away horrid/debilitating/random thoughts.

Mass?Energy = Space?Time , they are one and the same.
Gravity is "EXergy", energy that can do work;
net net (all things considered), it's forever being consumed away.

"Dark Matter" is UNSEEN MASS, "Dark Energy" is EXERGY DEPLETION,
and the start of the Big Bang is just the cosmic horizon,
similar to the event horizon of an ideal black hole.

unLike nature, science is finite; it has a horizon, a limit,
to wit: 13.75 giga?years ago and 46.5 * 2 giga?light?years wide..

I agree that I don't understand the BB. I certainly don't understand
how anybody in their right mind would even remotely accept that there
was a first "time", an initial "time", after which all time and space
just sort of "took off". And "before" which has no meaning. It's
just stupid - royally, unintuitively, and "religiously" stupid.

The Big Bang is a creation myth of science.

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan.."

But as mainstream ZNR approved myths go, it's a good one because it
gives their god that doesn't believe in fair play or hell, all the
credit it deserves.

Some don't accept BB theory at all, unless there was/is any data to be
garnered from such an event, such as early universe theory, as it
would also apply to things like string theory, etc., but the original
theory seems doomed to self-destruct:

http://www.newtonphysics.on.ca/bigbang/index.html

Otherwise, I'm favoring the Big Ongoing of aether flowing from the
pole of a mother BH, with the other universe of aether and molecular
stuff directed out of the other BH pole.

Makes sense if one takes into account that BB theorists originally
used 10e-33 cm. as the universal "seed", but also of the Wheeler
variety, yielding hyperspace structures, and calculations of
microscopic channels on the order of the same, and having a (mass
equivalent) energy density of 1e+94 g/cm^3.

Whatever the seed or ongoing aether flow that our universe is only a
very small part of, doesn't really matter when the faith-based likes
of pretend Atheists and ZNR Oligarch approved rednecks as fellow
clowns and FUD-masters remain in charge.

As long as the upper most .0001% (7000) are in charge regardless of
whomever we elect or appoint, there will be proxy wars, global
inflation, depletion of most everything essential to human life, and
eventually the demise of the human race before any nasty asteroid or
planetoid gets to nail us.

GOP Mafia has the world in the palm of its hand. Fascist world it has
become. China being commie is still holding out. * Democracy was
great. *I can still remember it. *TreBert

The American republic for which it stands has been turned into
Oligarch mafia toilet paper.

If your soon to be ZNR certified nose isn't already brown, they'll
make it brown by forcing our noses into their butt-cheeks. Of course
Harlow, Hagar, rabbi Saul and all of their GOP buddies see nothing
wrong with the forcing of K12 noses into their butts.

Keeping this generation and especially new generations of K12s as
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return, is priority No.
1 with these mainstream rusemasters and FUD-masters.

Global deflation can not be allowed to happen, regardless of the
collateral damage or undesirable consequences. Getting us village
idiots to spend more for less is an essential policy that's built into
their Oligarch agenda of insuring the upper most 0.1% continue to gain
wealth and authority over the lower 99.9% that always get to pay for
everything.

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