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Old September 21st 11, 09:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Andre Lieven[_3_]
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On Sep 20, 10:36*pm, bob haller knew
nothing:
wonder if hubble could image it, or a NRO spy sat?


In order to do that, *one would have to know where it IS first*...

Are you professionally stupid, or do you do it only as a hobby ?

or image it using a
sat on the way somewhere else.. like a comet or asteroid
mission.......


Ibid.

how about a manned mission to a comet or asteroid with a stop*to pick
up snoopy?


The sheer depth and width of the willful ignorance in such a statement
is breathtaking, and suggests that the writer of same is even too
stupid
to be a political teabagger...

1) Unmanned probes tend to be a LOT smaller than an ascent stage
of a LM.
2) Stopping in space requires a LOT of fuel; Ditto then getting back
up
to speed afterwards, which is why the non-morons who run actual
space programs don't contemplate, much less try to do such a
retarded thing.
3) A vehicle that could dock with a LM ascent stage and then
maneuver with it attached would need to be a) Big, b) Contain
a very powerful (Relative to it's own size and weight) engine, which
c) Then requires a LOT of fuel and tankage therof.

In short, such a dedicated mission would likely require a launcher
in the Saturn V class, especially as the payload would need to
at least perform 1) One TLI class burn, 2) Several rendezvous
burns, 3) A Return To Earth velocity change burn, never mind then
either 4a) An Earth orbit insertion burn, or 4b) Haul a large heat
shield and parachute deployment mechanism in order to land the
now recovered LM-4 ascent stage.

That's if the recovery ship is unmanned; Make the recovery ship
manned, and we're gonna need several Saturn V class launches.

in such a case retrieval might be easier the large problem will be
deorbiting it.........


-That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed
without evidence.-

currently no one has a way to return large items from orbit


Indeed, which is what YOU wanted in the first place, years ago.

Andre