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Old March 5th 07, 04:38 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall
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Default Bye-bye INF treaty?

Matt wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: Matt wrote:
:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "frédéric haessig" wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :"Rand Simberg" a écrit dans le message de
: : :news: ...
: : :That bush lied?
: : :
: : : Yes. That's not a fact. I'll forgive you because, though your
: : : English is excellent, it's probably not your first language.
: : : Apparently you're unfamiliar with the meaning of that word (hint: it
: : : doesn't mean merely stating something that later turns out not to be
: : : the case).
: : :
: : :Lying means stating something you know is not true.
: : :
: : :Which is exactly what Bush did.
: :
: : Wrong.
: :
: :Wrong.
: :
: :Say, one word disagreements are easy. I must add that to my usenet
: osting style. I don't know why I didn't think of it before. It sure
: :saves on all this typing stuff.
:
: When your statement is an outright lie, what else is there to say?
:
: Does this make you happier?
:
: Wrong. That is not exactly what Bush did. Your statement is in
: conflict with our present reality. What you claim happened never
: happened and every look at the facts says it never happened. You're
: on your ass, boy. It's false. It's incorrect. It's untrue.
:
: :
: : :He had access to reports from the US intelligence community stating that
: : :Sadam WMD program was a fake. He ignored them and kept asking for other
: : :information until he managed to get which could be interpreted to say what
: : :he wanted. Erog, Bush knew.
: :
: : Cite? This bit is a lie. You have apparently believed it. I'll
: : simply note that every Intelligence agency in every major country in
: : the world (including France) believed that Saddam had such weapons.
: :
: :How would you know? Do you have access to confidential intelligence
: :reports for every major country in the world? No, I didn't think so.
:
: Still waiting for that cite. EVERY investigation into this comes to
: the conclusion that what you claim never happened, is wrong, is false,
: is a lie. Is it sinking in yet?
:
:
:Your cite is in the article below, and refutes your claim "that every
:Intelligence agency in every major country in the world (including
:France) believed that Saddam had such weapons."

I see one EX-employee making comments. Where's the official position
of the Australian intelligence community?

: :Here is an article by Andrew Wilkie, an Australian spook that resigned
: :in the midst of the media storm about WMDs, before Australia deployed to
: :Iraq. Seriously, have a read through it. First, it debunks your
: :assertion above. Second, if you think America, or Britain, or virtually
: :any other country is beyond the issues raised, you are deluded.
: :
: :
: :
http://tinyurl.com/d85w
:
: I don't follow unidentified URLs that might go anywhere. Sorry.
:
:
:The apologies are mine. It links to this article.
:
:http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...177726543.html

Too easily explained as 'disgruntled employee'. Just reading the web
page cited and noting the phrasing makes it pretty clear that the
writer is more interested in 'spin' than accuracy.

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"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates