On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:34:13 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

Fundamentalist ideologies read observations at face value, you lost souls on the other hand can't even manage to handle even the apparent observations as they appear to observers never mind the translation of these apparent motions up to including that one sunrise and sunset within a 24 hour period correlates to one rotation of the planet.



Do you not believe the stars come out 1461 times as it crosses four orbital circuits because that is the only observation and value that counts ?

Sure, there are 1461 days and nights in 4 years because of Earth's daily rotations with respect to the Sun... but each non-circumpolar star that is observable from your location will rise, cross the meridian, and set 1465 times in 4 years, the extra rotation each due to the Earth's revolution about the sun once in each of those 4 years. Circumpolar stars in your location never rise or set, but they do cross the superior meridian 1465 times in 4 years. Sorry you don't get it, but it is an incontrovertible fact that can be observed by anyone who takes the time to make the measurement. You just can't deny reality when it comes to events that can be proven so very easily.... well, YOU can, but rational beings cannot. You have never answered the question, "A star returns to 2 sticks in 23 56 04, so what does this mean to you?" It must mean something, so what is it?

... The entire Western civilization,if it can now be called a civilization at all, cannot follow the dictates of people who truly force themselves to believe there are more rotations that sunrises/sunsets across a year and orbit of the Earth.

Perspective... if you only had some, you would be rich!