On Jan 16, 7:49*pm, oriel36 wrote:
On Jan 17, 12:10*am, Mike Collins wrote:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0115190218.htm

2012 Sustained Long-Term Climate Warming Trend, NASA Finds
Jan. 15, 2013 — NASA scientists say 2012 was the ninth warmest of any year
since 1880, continuing a long-term trend of rising global temperatures.
With the exception of 1998, the nine warmest years in the 132-year record
all have occurred since 2000, with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest
years on record.

This is really a cult phenomena due to the dominance of mathematical
modelers as it preys on genuine human concern for the planet while
having no respect or appreciation whatsoever for basic planetary
facts.People with a healthy and vibrant appreciation of the connection
between planetary cycles and terrestrial effects from the daily
effects to annual effects to longer term cycle would develop a more
practical approach to pollution without these ridiculous assertions
that are getting more and more desperate in tone.It sounds like a
bunch of people who predict that 3 AM is the darkest hour on record
without keeping an eye on the fact that it will become bright once
again in a few hours and considering that the same cult refuses to
accept that a 24 hour AM/PM cycle keeps in step with one rotation,this
is less an analogy than a really,really dismal fact.

I do not know what the big deal is - a planet with zero inclination,
where the daily rotational axis aligns with the ecliptic axis, will
experience equatorial conditions rather than the older 'no tilt/no
seasons' perspective while a planet with a 90 degree inclination
reflects a polar climate.The newness of this planetary climate
spectrum is all the more reason to stop and consider what the main
components are by using planetary comparisons or by direct
observations that explain why we have the seasons.

Grow up for goodness sake,what the world is seeing is an empirical
game like those simulated games kids play.

Indeed, the more tilt the more global warmth, including increased
geothermal upwelling via tidal flexing.

However, by any means of measure us humans are not providing any
cooling benefits.

The ongoing loss of helium isn't exactly cooling us off, although the
refrigeration affect should be worth some degree of heat exchange.