On Mar 12, 11:11*am, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 12, 2:07*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



On Mar 12, 10:57*am, bob haller wrote:

On Mar 12, 1:43*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Mar 12, 7:38*am, "Jonathan" wrote:

Look at this explosion at *47 seconds into the video.
A violent hydrogen explosion, demolishing such a
heavily reinforced containment building, must have
been the result of a badly overheated reactor.

Japan claims the reactor is intact. But that large of an explosion
could have caused all kinds of damage and leaks that
have yet to be found, or admitted by the Japanese govt.

Japan Nuclear Reactor EXPLOSION Fukushima Meltdownhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvC4WQrQwTs

Japan Nuclear Fallout Map? *(gulp)http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/438/fallout.jpg

Fukushima overhead viewhttp://everist.org/pics/misc/fukushima_worse.png

Japan is reporting the prevailing winds are out to sea.
They've already evacuated 300,000 from the area.
And Fukushima #1 is one of the largest 25 reactors
in the world. And was built ...way back..in 1970.
The first reactor built by it's builder.

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That kind of reactor coolant dispersed radiation is certainly bad
news, especially downwind of those secondary spent fuel elements like
plutonium, but it's not likely to be quite as bad off as it could be.
Most of that reactor core will manage to burn its way through the
foundation of its containment, and due to gravity it'll eventually
sink out of sight without another steam explosion unless water is
added.

There’s a good chance that their primary containment vessel is either
badly damaged or nearly worthless. (it’s certainly no longer a sealed
containment)

However, this could get a whole lot worse, if any storm(s) or odd
weather brings any of that nasty cloud of radioactive steam/vapor back
towards land, they may have no option but to abandon ship (so to
speak).

Unfortunately, the ongoing ocean contamination until that containment
burn-through and its fuel sinking into the bedrock/crust of Earth may
take months, or possibly years before it’s 100% nullified. *On it’s
way into the crust/bedrock, there will be geothermal and radioactive
fuel saturated vapor explosions as that extremely hot core of mostly
uranium continues to interact with ground water or whatever artificial
coolant seawater getting pumped down the hole that’s melting its way
through basalt, and that superheated steam transported radiation will
likely become atmospheric and downwind nasty. *The local and global
cleanup cost to Japan should only be a few trillion dollars per year,
and with 128 million should only cost each and every person $10,000/
year once the bulk of those damaged reactors are nullified.

The good corporate news for other Big Energy, is this makes their BP
blowout fiasco seem woefully insignificant, and their oil as well as
coal worth even more. *Other than that, Japan has just put itself into
a no-win foreclosure, unless their rich and powerful start forking out
tens of billions per month.

Again, where and why were all those radon gas detections of pending
earthquakes kept secret or ignored?

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scientists treport nuke plants worldwide arent built to survive 8 and
9 earthquakes since they are so rare, and would cost so much to build
they wouldnt be cost effective so entually a big one hits. They are
now pumping sea water to try and cool the core.

Will a big chunk of japan end up resembling this?

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-revisited/

Perhaps not nearly as bad as Chernobyl, unless another core goes
postal.

Backup cooling systems shouldn't have failed, nor having been so
poorly configured in the first place. *Seawater cooling is their last
resort, though really bad for the fish and anything else that survives
in the ocean.

Why weren't the neutralizing control rods automatically inserted?

Were these reactors being operated and maintained by monkeys?

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wonder if fred j mc call will ever post here again? he spent so much
time posting about how safe nuke power is..... well was.

the main power failed and the backup generators started but failed
because of eartquake damage......

and heres the fallout maphttp://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-revisited/

There are safer reactors and obviously better protected backup systems
for cooling. However, nothing beats the failsafe nature of a reactor
that's fueled by thorium.

As is, looks like the next upgrade for Japan's nuclear energy will
have to be rated to survive a 9.5, such as putting it on a very large
floating platform that can be towed out to sea and sunk in the deepest
trench would do the trick.

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