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Old February 16th 08, 06:13 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.station
Mike Ross[_3_]
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Default 80's style Stations Modules...

Jorge R. Frank wrote:

wrote:
On Feb 16, 10:50 am, (Rand Simberg)
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:39:48 -0600, in a place far, far away, "Joseph
S. Powell, III" made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:

With all the excitement experienced during the past few days with the
attachment of the Columbus module to the ISS, I was reminded of the
types of Space Station modules proposed back in the 1980's....
These tended to have a longer design, filling up the entire payload bay
of the Shuttle.
Does anyone know why these longer modules were rejected in favor of the
shorter ones now used on the ISS?
The older designs certainly had much more room.
Probably at least partly because longer ones would have been too heavy
for the Shuttle to get to the high-inclination ISS orbit. In the
eighties, the station was planned to be put at 28 degrees. But that's
just a guess.


Rand is right. Also $ was factor


Actually, you're both wrong. The modules were shortened as part of
the infamous "Fred" redesign of Space Station Freedom in 1991, two years
before the Russians were brought into the project and the station's
planned orbit moved from 28.8 to 51.6 degrees.

Astronautix is normally suspect as a source, but their Fred article was
guest-written by Marcus Lindroos and is fairly well researched:

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spanfred.htm

"The length of the crew modules was reduced to 8.2 meters to reduce the
weight while allowing them to be tested, integrated and outfitted on the
ground rather than in space."



I would have thought it was also driven by the need to keep the Orbiter CG
towards the back of the bay. A big module would need a lot of rear ballast
to make the orbiter flyable in an RTLS abort, no?

Mike Ross