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Old January 27th 13, 01:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Observed retrogrades

For long enough I have complained that the work of our astronomical
ancestors is being ruined by taking the stellar circumpolar
observation a step too far and as it is tied in with Newton's
idiosyncratic absolute/relative time space and motion modeling
agenda,it also works against retrogrades,their proper resolution and
the differences in perspectives between the inner and outer
planets,differences which can be settled easily with contemporary
imaging.

I was on an airplane today and marveled at what it takes to put a
person in a seat in mid-air,not just the daily ins and outs of this
process but the trajectory of historical and technical developments
which rely on human ingenuity,what works and what does not.In the
matter of planetary dynamics,timekeeping and terrestrial sciences
there should be a similar approach - nobody should have to spend a
decade explaining how the 24 hour AM/PM system and Lat/Long systems
developed out of the calendar system and that ancient system itself
used specific references which do not involve stellar circumpolar
motion,that the fundamental unit of timekeeping is a proportion of
days to years and its transfer to a dynamical equivalent of daily
rotations to orbital circuits.It is not even this,it is now when there
is so much visual information out there that requires proper
interpretation,observers choose to remain with a barren late 17th
century view that undermines the functioning interpretative faculties
that we all possess.

The readers in this forum had some intellectual capital by asserting
the 'solar vs sidereal' ideology as it tried to retain astronomical
references,albeit tangled and corrupt,yet they are now being ignored
by the timekeeping crowd who still retain an Ra/Dec framework but
assign an idealized 24 hour rotation in the year 1820 .Instead of
commissioning an investigation which is not an exercise in damage
control but rather a complete revisiting of all the principles
involved in formatting the the artificial human timekeeping
constructs from their natural occurrences,it seems that the community
has taken the least attractive option of slipping into an intellectual
oblivion by abdicating responsibility whereby astronomy disappears
altogether as a productive discipline and taking terrestrial sciences
with it.

In the end somebody has to pick up the pieces and work towards
creating a productive environment for I would not trust myself to fly
on that airplane if any single link on the chain was corrupt or
unreliable,likewise a decisive step must be taken surrounding
astronomy.