On May 12, 3:58*am, palsing wrote:
On May 10, 10:50*pm, oriel36 wrote:

How is it possible that in the 21st century that a person can

knowingly and without the expectation of any objection can discuss
celestial sphere things as actual instead of the horror that it is ?.I
am sure some know by now

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And I am just as sure that you are just about the only person on the
planet who thinks this way.

It must be lonely at the top... very lonely...

Tell me how long does it take Polaris to return to your meridian and
I will tell you that imposing the Earth's geometry into the celestial
arena is what people are doing by following Flamsteed ,they do not
know they are doing it and seriously do not believe they are
retaining the astrological architecture but that is what you get when
you create a solar vs sidereal fiction which has no basis in principle
never mind in observation and then justifying it using daily rotation
and orbital motion.

If participants wants to the quasi- holographic image of what they
believe by linking the daily rotation of the Earth directly to a
stationary celestial sphere or a rotating celestial sphere to a
stationary Earth in 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds then here it is -

http://www.opencourse.info/astronomy...phere_anim.gif

With the first sign that holographic imaging will play an enormous
role in translating observations through powerful imaging,I am still
stuck here with those who have enclose the universe in a celestial
sphere bubble by projecting the Earth's spherical geometry into space
with matching concepts !.

I wish people would give up the pretense that it is not a crisis,deal
with the matter and move on to actual productive astronomy ,instead,I
have to deal with people,who at best, sound like they drink cups of
vinegar so sullen are the responses.