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Old September 10th 16, 12:46 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 8:52:36 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote:
On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 7:48:06 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
Gerald Kelleher wrote:
The sky gets very busy around the area where the Sun comes into view at
dawn, the difference being that the unique polar dawn at the South pole
lasts for a considerable period of weeks when the Sun eventually shows
itself on September 22nd as the Earth has a unique surface rotation as a
function of its orbital motion -

http://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm

An atmosphere that lacked color for so long, even when the moon passed
before it on the June Solstice now takes on that amazing glow for those
who admire the event daily at sunrise and sunset.

When people get jaded of opinions designed to diminish individuals or
humanity itself they can turn to that intimacy which is their
astronomical inheritance - something to love in a world when men no
longer feel what is important. Again,a unique dawn that happens once a
year at that location.



It shows at about 8 pm UT on the 21st and takes until about 8 am on the
23rd to clear the horizon. During this period it moves 1 and a half times
around the horizon. Can you explain why?

This is really only for people who haved lived and live as individuals -
the Sun coming into view on the Equinox for the first time in 6 months is
a result of a Great rotation, one that now can be seen directly from an
orbiting satellite -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFrP6QfbC2g

The same change in colors with an anticipated appearance of the Sun as
the planet turns and it does so in two distinct ways so that on September
22nd there will be two distinct types of sunrises , one going on due to
daily rotation and the other as a function of the planet's orbital motion.

http://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm

That soft glow of orange and red will be matched soon enough at the
Northern equivalent as the glow marks polar sunset.


Why can't you answer my question? You can see it's true form the webcam
(although there seem to be very few times when it's live). You can't deny
the truth. So explain it!


Dawn and sunrise as they happen in two distinct ways is a product of a
turning Earth and ,for the first time, an entire generation of kids can
watch Antarctica cross the sunlit fact of the Earth while watching it
rotate in its daily rotation. The surface point called the South pole is
unique as that in the one surface point on Antarctica where the Sun is
present and absent for 6 months at a time -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFrP6QfbC2g


Something different is happening around an area of the planet where few
people live yet modern imaging makes it possible for everyone to share
the spectacle or a miracle.







Modern imaging allows us to watch the sun seem to circle the horizon every
Greenwich Mean day from the South Pole. This demonstrates that the South
Pole rotates with the rest of the Earth. It also allows us to see the
apparent rotation of the stars around sigma octantis every sidereal day
during the south polar winter. This demonstrates the true rotation of the
Earth.
If you want anybody to agree with you you have to explain these facts and
not ignore them.

Refusing to explain why this could happen in your universe means you are
lying to the world by omission. It's also why not a single person out of
the billions of possible converts believes you. You are doomed to to keep
repeating the same ridiculously simplistic misunderstandings until you die.
Sit down. Assume the other side (that's ever body else ) is right. Think of
reasons why they are wrong. The main thing you have to do is show how the
two verifiable observations I mantis end above are wrong. If you can't do
that nobody will believe you and you will spend the rest of your life as a
mildly amusing crank who can't convince even his own family.