On Jul 10, 6:43*am, bob haller wrote:
That too is a mistake. *It's in both, especially when you're talking
about the sort of highly coordinated methods, masses of documentation
and controlled procedures required for the aerospace industry.

It works for a lot of industries and professions, not just the
aerospace industry, and without the mounds of paper typical of the
aerospace industry. *It remains to be seen however if SpaceX can make
it work without said mounds.

by now it should be clear to everyone that the old way, gets us no
where in space. just look at the JWST

The problem is not that the old way doesn't work, _per se_. It might
not be the best way, but as Apollo demonstrated, it can work. The
problem is a lack of will.