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Old July 30th 05, 05:44 AM
Henry Spencer
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Ron Webb wrote:
- While orbiting at 17000mph or so to dip down into the upper atmosphere -
the very edge -then deploy a large parachute similar to the modern sport
chutes that forms an airfoil.


It's been proposed, actually.

These things generate lift, just like any other airfoil. It seems to me that
an inclined plane should still generate lift, even when the medium is a very
thin gas - or even independant molecules.


Correct. The rules are somewhat different up in the region of molecular
flow -- where the molecules are indeed pretty much independent -- and at
hypersonic speeds, but lift is still available... at the usual price of
drag. (See below.)

Then just skip along in the upper atmosphere for a long time (maybe as much
as a full "orbit" changing angle of attack - slowly slowing and dropping
into thicker air enough to balance temperatures and lift.


Alas, here you propose a numerical impossibility. *It can't be done.*

When you buy a certain amount of lift, you pay with a certain amount of
drag. And the L/D ratio of reasonable shapes is not that good at
hypersonic speeds in molecular flow. If you're getting enough lift to
hold you up, you are *not* decelerating very slowly and gradually. Oh,
initially, yes, because at just below orbital speed you don't need much
lift... but the situation doesn't stay that good for very long. At half
orbital speed, "centrifugal lift" is only 1/4 as strong, and aerodynamic
lift must do most of the work, and that means you're getting a *lot* of
drag and slowing down rapidly.

In fact, when you study the details, it turns out that the large surface
area of something like a parafoil doesn't really make any difference to
how *quick* reentry is. That is determined almost solely by the L/D ratio
of the shape, and there are real limits to how good that can be.

A large surface area does buy you something: you decelerate earlier, in
thinner air, and the heat is spread out over a larger area. This lowers
temperatures and makes materials problems much easier. But things still
happen just about as quickly.
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