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Old December 31st 15, 03:25 AM posted to sci.astro
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default The condition of the matter in the black hole as specified by

On 26/12/2015 1:55 PM, JAAKKO KURHI wrote:
“The black hole is made up of highly compressed matter, even the light
cannot escape.”
The ways an atom is constructed don’t work well in technical aspect
because the atom is structurally weak to take any externally applied
pressure. Let us leave the light issue as is and concentrate on how much
pressure the atomic construction can take. The structurally weak
construction of an atom is due to orbiting electrons, specifically the
long distances from the nucleus to orbiting electrons, makes electrons
subject to collapse way before extreme pressure is applied.


This is called the Pauli Exclusion Principle for electrons. No two
electrons with the same direction of spin can occupy the same orbital of
an atom at the same time. This is the force that counteracts the total
collapse of a white dwarf from becoming a black hole.

A similar Pauli Exclusion principle exists for nucleons (protons and
neutrons). This is the the force that counteracts a neutron star from
collapsing into a black hole itself. However in a neutron star, the
Pauli Exclusion Principle for electrons is bypassed. The electrons are
either captured by protons and turned into neutrons, or the electrons go
flying outside the neutron star creating an enormous magnetic field.

In a black hole, even the Pauli Exclusion principle for nucleons is
bypassed, and there is no force available to counteract its final
collapse into a black hole.

The reason
for collapsing electrons is, because the pull force from the nucleus
and the orbiting force of electrons has to be in balance (equilibrium)
in order to make an atomic orbiting system feasible. So it takes small
amounts of compressing energy to throw electrons off from their orbits,
thus forces are out of balance and electrons are pulled into the
nucleus.


You seem to be arguing for an electron centrifugal force here. The
electrons aren't orbiting the atom like planets orbiting the Sun, so
there's no counteracting centrifugal force, like there is for planets.
The "orbital" of an electron is not the same as an "orbit" of a planet.
The orbital is a statistical cloud inside which the electron is likely
to be. However, the electron isn't moving around inside this orbital, it
is just popping in and out of existence within this region. The electron
pops in and out of its region due to quantum mechanics.

So the nucleus has gained .01% into its mass, and this total
mass from an atom isn’t further compressible regardless the strength of
applicable forces within the black hole. Therefore, the large size of
the black hole in the milky way galaxy is made up of these collapsed
atoms, which are physically incompressible in volume, thus the total
mass has to be much larger in size and weight than previously calculated
compressible atomic mass. In conclusion, the primeval masses contend of
the black hole in one galaxy doesn’t fit into one big atom or a marble
ball size object, which is said to be a source for all matter in the
universe. Furthermore, redefining an atomic mass as compressible into
infinite, does not resolve the electron’s collapsing issue. Is there
explanation to this disparity?


You've just described a neutron star, not a black hole.

Yousuf Khan