"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message
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A bit out of your tree, perhaps. But you're certainly not alone. The
mainstream does not grasp the clear distinction between gravity and
'gravity waves'. The latter should more correctly be defined as _spatial
acoustic pressure waves_ in the fabric of space, analogous to sound
waves in air (jb's protestations notwithstanding).

To any following this thread ...
If you have any inclination of discussing such matters outside of the wild
and wacky world of "alt.astronomy" (read - "with sane people") you would be
best served to disregard BS's (OH, I like that! ... it works on so may
different levels!) fantasies in their entirety.

There is NO longitudinal component to Gravitational Waves.


And these mis-named
'gravity waves' DO propagate at c.

They are _related_ to gravity, and are generated by massive
gravitational events (such as a supernova detonation or a binary BH
coalescence), but they are NOT gravity.
The mainstream's void-space paradigm(VSP) precludes the
understanding of gravity as the FLOW of the spatial medium into a
gravitating mass. Whether the mass is a normal star or a black hole is
irrelevant. The VSP precludes understanding that gravity's influence is
_instantaneous irrespective of distance_ just as Newton originally
observed. And it's instantaneous with or without an intervening event
horizon.
While this may be at odds with the interpretation of GR
on the "speed of gravity", it is a fact.

A fact, is it???


If it's not, and space is a
"void", then we're stuck with "fossil fields", 'virtual gravitons',
virtual photons, angels, imps, and Sky Pixies. oc