dude wrote:

"Jay Windley" wrote in message
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"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. net.cable.rogers.com...
|
| They call themselves 'scientists' and yet even a kid
| in elementary school can see that they are lying about
| the colours.

Yes, because the kid in elementary school hasn't yet learned about
wavelengths and filters and high-end image processing, remote sensing, and
all the other fields that pertain to this sort of study. The conspiracy
theorists basically have the same understanding as an elementary school
student and foolishly believe they'll never need any more in order to
understand the world around them. (Apologies to any elementary students
I've insulted.)

Oversimplification of complex topics is a standard ploy in conspiracism.


Now I just have to take issue with your blanket assumption. It might be
right for some things but take the JFK "magic bullet" theory. There the
"conspiracism" is totally correct. Unless you actually believe the "magic
bullet" that came out totally intact and undamaged...

Ofcourse not, don't you know that 'conspiracies' don't exist, they are
called Politics.



So you can't just go making blanket assumptions about all conspiracy
theories.......


Kooks can say whatever the hell they want to, and that includes 'blanket
statements' even though ofcourse we all know only other kooks believe them.



"You don't need to be a [insert expert title] to see that [insert naive
expectation]," is a very common argument.


Just to reiterate sometimes experts agree with conspiracy theories like with
the "magic bullet" theory.

Oh ofcourse, and some of these experts always need closer examination of
their own ass.




In fact, experts in fields exist
precisely because nearly all fields have elements that do *not* follow the
layman's intuition.


Sorry for the interuption... Please continue. But it would also be helpful
if you sited how Hogland was wrong instead of just saying he is. His website
supposedly gives the reasons he is right.

Don't put your money on it, kooks here in alt.astronomy are more
interested in denial, denouncements and denigrating than actually doing
or reading about ascience.


I haven't looked closly at his evidence though but a good shooting down of
whatever facts he has would be better than just ripping on him...



Yeah well pick on Hoagland, when there are plenty of others online who
suggest there are non-natural landforms on Mars as well.



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