"Marcel Luttgens" wrote in message
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A dialogue between Mr. Big Bang and Mr. Steady State
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(Please read first the NASA press release and summary of results at the
end of the dialogue.)

Mr. Bang:

In an eternal, steady state universe there is no evolution. Galaxies would
be infinitely evolved, so would life. Big Bang or not we have abundant
observational evidence that the universe is changing over time, evolving
from chaos to structure. the build up of large scale structure of galaxy
superclusters, the origin of the heavier elements, the assembly of
galaxies
are all consistent with direct observational evidence for this conclusion.

To prove otherwise one would have to throw out at lease three decades
worth of
astronomical observations by the world's most powerful telescopes, and
find
alternative interpretations for thousands of peer-reviewed scientific
papers
on cosmology.

NASA's W-MAP satellite builds upon this robust and consistent evidence to
independently verify the universe is expanding and evolving from state
where
it was once dense and hot. this does not "prove" there was a big bang, but
the expansion of space, and the evolution of galaxies is incontrovertible
and based on direct observations, not just theory.

This doesn't mean everything is absolutely right. And, if evidence comes
up
that contradicts the big bang cosmology, astronomers will embrace it as
an
exciting new intellectual challenge to theory.

Mr. State:

A great number of spiral galaxies should have halos with globular
clusters as old as M4 (12 to 13 billion years). A galaxy situated at,
for instance, 8 billion light-years from us is seen at it was 8 billion
years
ago. Thus, stars from its halo are theoretically 20-21 billion years
old. How can this be compatible with an universe which is only
13.7 +/- 0.2 billion years old, according to the BB theory?


Are you saying that globlar clusters around the most distant galaxies are
seen as identical to M4?

Alternatively, are you saying that globular clusters don't evolve?