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Old June 1st 17, 09:36 PM posted to sci.physics.research,sci.astro.research
Phillip Helbig
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Default entropy and gravitation

In article ,
Gerry Quinn writes:

The smooth distribution always has the same entropy. Start with the
smooth distribution and no gravity, and increase the gravitational
constant. Now high entropy states start to become available that were
not available withouy gravity.


Sounds plausible.

To put it another way, the 'clumpy' states in the non-gravitational
universe have lower entropy than the smooth state, but the clumpy states
in the gravitational universe have higher entropy than the smooth state.


Imagine a clumpy universe with no gravity. It has low entropy (lower
than the smooth universe). Now G starts increasing from zero to, say,
its current value (at which point the clumpy universe has a higher
entropy than the smooth universe). At some value of G, the clumpy
universe must have the same entropy as the smooth universe (which you
say has the same entropy with or without gravity). So for this value of
G, the entropy is independent of the clumpiness.

Someone has made an error somewhere.