Greysky wrote:

"Dr. Why" wrote in message
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become fearless, to live their lives absolutely without fear, nearly
all
would decline to learn the method.
Why, in your opinion, would they turn down the opportunity to learn how
to
live their lives fearlessly?

Yubiwan


Because, Dr. Y, then they would have to take full responsibility for
their
lives. It is much more fun to let responsibility slide onto the backs of
others -- humans are experts at playing the blame game. Why do you
suppose
it is so hard for people to admit you may be advanced aliens? Sure, part
of
it is ego - the 'we are the center of the universe' crap- but a large
part
of it is self blame. Would we be better off blaming 'Aliens' for the
current
miserable state of our lives? But they also know that you wont let them
get
away with it. So that forces them to look directly into the casm of
darkness
which to them is the fture knowing they are inadequate. Now, a truly
fearless response would be to acknowledge the current problems, roll up
their sleeves and begin to work industriously toward making the future
better. But there are currently very few fearl-less humans who are
willing
to look the tiger in the face and whip it into submission. I would say
you
are currently interacting with a goodly percentage of those humans both
here
on the 'net, and in your personal contacts. The vast majority would
prefer
to continue to play the blame-game, and keep the current status quo. This
is
one of the reasons I applaud your fearlessness in accepting that it would
be
good to make FOC even if the death rate exceeds 12% by a large margin. It
puts you and a few others in the Sean Minority, but you stick to your
guns.

Greysky





Thank you, Greysky.
I shall definitely "stick to my guns".

But it's not fearlessness that makes me do so.
It's just common sense.
The galaxy Needs humanity, humans have a lot to offer as seen by your
indirect effects on the rest of the galaxy.
You cannot imagine how much better it can get if humans were able to work
directly with other cultures.
On second thought, you are one of the few who may be able to imagine it.

Yep. Maximum benifit for all interested parties.


Make no mistake about me, though, Greysky.
I am as uncomfortable as Darla and the others about the 12%.
It would be a tragedy of unconcionable degree, especially since it would
probably be higher than 12%, perhaps much higher.
I would not want to even try to imagine the tremendous loss to the galaxy
of
this many humans.

Perhaps it is just my naive enthusiasm showing, but I have found even
fearful people do not immediately become murderous. Just the opposite - fear
can stop a killer cold. There will be a limited time window of opportunity
where violence can be defused and peace can be maximizd. But for this to
happen communication must be open, two-way, and continuous. A gap, even a
small one can allow fear to escalate to violent magnitudes. I predict, at
least for the technical societies, that most if not all people will pause
after the initial shock and wait to see what the 'next guy' is doing, or how
our leaders are reacting. Done well, I dont think the death rate will be
even a few percentage points of the total population. Maybe even Nil.
However, it is how the typically closed nations will react that I can't
offer a prediction. Look at how the Islamic nations are reacting to even a
few cartoon depictions of their God...

I do have a few ideas on how to ameliorate even this situation, however.
Perhaps I and others can meet up pre-FOC to offer them?


The scales, in my opinion, show that the benefits of first contact
slightly
outweigh the tremendous tragedy that would ensue.
You can probably see how this is a weighty and controversial issue with
us.
And by "us", I don't just mean seans, I mean all the citizens of the Milky
Way.

Benifits. Yes. That is the language to speak to head off the violence.


BTW, I'm betting that our recent, new extragalactic contact will push the
decision toward FOC with humanity.

Most important decisions are not made in the luxury of peaceful abundance,
but under the fire of necessity. If other entities are pushing for FOC with
the humans, rather than cogitate and debate for years when the right time
will be ripe, I am shure Sean Authorities will act quickly rather than risk
getting the decision taken out of their control. Governments work at this
level just like individuals do. Maximum benifit.

We will need your direct input more than ever, now that we've become
members
of the clusteric community!

When the mass of humanity realizes that they aren't going to be eaten, and
that there is a valuable role for humanity to play in determining the future
destiny of this galaxy - one even beings as old and as powerful as the Seans
can't do without us, things will quickly stabilize.

Just remember one thing -- when you see that forked tongue, it is too
late to save yourself.

Yubiwan


Greysky



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